Fairly reasonable specs, but they are phantasizing of ridiculously high prices.
I think it’s just a standard asrock pc and you are just paying extra for the “support”
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-industrial-4x4-box-7735u/p/N82E16856179002
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-industrial-4x4-box-7735u/p/N82E16856179001That’s a lot of extra money for support and a logo.
Of course the ones on Newegg are barebone, but 32GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD will only bring that price up to around $700 USD for the Ryzen 7.
FYI: 849 EUR (~$910 USD) incl 19% tax for the basic configuration with AMD Ryzen 5 7535U, 8GB RAM, and 500GB SSD storage.
Eye-watering
$799.00 USD gets you the Mac mini with the same (but maybe faster) RAM and (slightly faster) SSD.
And it beats very comfortably the 7535U while consuming less energy and being cooler.
Definitely a deal breaker for Windows x86 dependant workflows; not so much for Linux users tho.
I think AMD is the only one with a real chance at matching and maybe beating Apple in the mini PC space, but pricing and architectural differences still make it really challenging.
Yeah. I saw the Mac mini in a store not long ago. I don’t know about the state of Linux support for the M2 platform. I somewhat dislike Apple for nowadays soldering everything and making things so they can’t be updated or repaired. And they take a crazy amount of extra money to put in a proper amount of RAM and storage. Like Apple’s price explodes from 700€ to ~2000€ once I put in 24GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD.
You could get an Odroid H3+ for a lot cheaper.
And the specs would be ridiculously different.
I’d say you need to buy at least 4 of the Odroids and run them in parallel to compete with the performance of that ryzen.
You can get a Ryzen 7 mini PC on Amazon for $360. With Windows, but Linux runs fine on it.
The one I linked has a WiFi/BT card that I could not get running, but the Ryzen 5 version worked OOTB no issues.
I know you were only replying to the comment above about ODroid, and I agree with what you said. I also have several ODroids, and I have learned to dislike Linux on ARM. I have one U3 that will not power on, at the moment, so I’m a bit sour on ODroids.
Given the existence of the Trigkey offerings, what justifies the $900 price on the OP machine, do you think?
That Odroid has an Intel processor, so no Arm. But I have no issues with that. I ran a few single board computers that were okay (except for the gpu).
I don’t think the price is entirely justified. Maybe you pay for the name and support a local company. And it’s better integrated than on some cheap stuff from China. Idk.
Thanks for the link. But I’d have to pay an additional $85 for taxes/duties and shipping. And at this point I think I’d pay the difference to get one with the current generation of ryzen processors which have way better graphics and DDR5 RAM. This mini pc claims to have all that, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD at a price tag of 519€.
Huh. Maybe I have the model wrong; I’ve had it for several years. I’ll have to pop the case tomorrow and check. In any case:
gurthang ~ % uname -a Linux gurthang 3.8.13.28 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Dec 3 18:40:50 BRST 2014 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
whichever model it is, it’s definitely ARM. I bought two at the same time for a home automation project, and one had since kicked the bucket.
Re VAT: oof. I got 64GB RAM for mine for only a little more than your taxes. That’s rough. Good luck, whatever you choose.
Odroid has both ARM and Intel boards in their lineup
I have JUST built a PC last week and it cost me exactly $645 Here is what it has, thought: An 8 cores/16 threads AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with internal Radeon 8 graphics AMD RX 580 graphics card. Older but still has 8 GB vram and it is 256bit and performes amazing 16GB of DDR4 3200 RAM 512GB nvme WD 770 1TB blue WD 2.5" SATA SSD I mean…
My drive has been working like a charm
yoo that article is from 2002
Oh lol. Well it happened recently too: