https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/straw-poll-on-your-preferences-about-opt-in-opt-out-for-possible-data-collection/85675/2

This poll is a bit hard to understand but essentially you could vote for multiple options, the highest opt-out option is at 26%, meaning 74% of people oppose this idea.

The original proposal is at 16%, for a jarring 84% disapproval rate.

Despite overwhelming negative feedback, Red Hat is currently drafting a revised proposal.

But what about Red Hat?

This is the link to the proposal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry#Privacy-preserving_Telemetry_for_Fedora_Workstation

These parts are all interesting and contradict some people who argue Red Hat has no hand in this issue:

Name: Michael Catanzaro Email: <mcatanzaro@redhat.com>

and

The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation usage metrics.

and

It is Fedora Legal’s obligation to ensure our data collection complies with legal requirements in the jurisdictions in which Red Hat operates

and

Occasionally, Red Hat might need to collect specific metrics to justify additional time spent on contributing to Fedora or additional investment in Fedora.

The quotes above were handpicked. There are 7 matches for “Red Hat” in the link above, not counting the email address.

  • Indépendantiste (old)@lemmy.world
    1·
    1 year ago

    IMO it’s a bad thing if this doesn’t get added. FOSS in general has very limited resources, knowing what to work on most urgently will help massively to tackle the most urgent issues

    • conciselyverbose@kbin.social
      11·
      1 year ago

      Opt out is not acceptable under any circumstances. It’s not your data. It’s your users’.

      Sending a single bit back without an explicit, uncoerced opt in should be illegal.

      • Molecular0079@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        The problem with opt-in is that it isn’t a good way to get a good sample size. It’s very self-selecting. There are ways of collecting telemetry while being privacy-respecting, but whether RedHat is properly anonymizing this user data is a different matter.

        • conciselyverbose@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          It doesn’t matter what the tradeoffs are. The data does not and cannot belong to you.

          There is no way of collecting telemetry while respecting privacy*. The pure fact that you’re collecting anything the user didn’t explicitly consent to is an unacceptable violation. Anonymization doesn’t mean you aren’t taking data that isn’t yours.

          *edit: without opt in. The acceptable way to do it is to make your ask, make the user make one choice or the other, and respect it.

    • stappern@lemmy.one
      01·
      1 year ago

      we are doing just fine without…now all of the sudden its a necessity? i call bullshit

      • 601error@lemmy.ca
        11·
        1 year ago

        I don’t buy this excuse. Just make it “opt”, meaning neither option is the default. You have to choose “Yes, contribute diagnostic and bug data to Fedora (recommended)” or “No, keep my data private” before you can continue. Put a big “more info” link to documentation on what is collected, when, and who gets it, and how it’s used.

        It somewhat under-represents those who value privacy most and over-represents those who want to help Fedora with their usage data, but I argue that’s a good thing.