Nissan to go all-electric by 2030 despite petrol ban delay::The carmaker moves ahead with its plan despite delays to the UK’s ban on new petrol and diesel cars.

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    Yeah because they know that what the Tories announce at this point is essentially just irrelevant and shouldn’t be taken the seriously.

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    the petrol ban delay wouldn’t have happened if THE GOVERNMENT WASN’T SO INCOMPETENT!! I don’t see any initiatives to build electric car charger infrastructure everywhere!

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      I’d have to agree with some of the proposed ban dates here in the US as well. You can’t just mandate something without also building up the infrastructure to support it. 2030 will be here in the blink of an eye but it doesn’t seem like there is any rush to build out public charging stations, mandate chargers in places like apartment complexes, or upgrade the grid to handle this new load. I suspect a lot of these will get pushed back as their dates approach. It’s very easy to say “at ABC point in the future all things must be XYZ.” It’s much more difficult to actually have things ready for that proposed date.

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    Future policies work like that. The ban won’t have to be enforced, because it’ll be irrelevant before it’s in effect. UK stepping back won’t affect the actual change. Only idiots would invest money in technology that’ll be obsolete in the territory “everywhere worldwide (except UK)”.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Nissan will accelerate plans towards electrification by committing that all vehicles sold in Europe will be electric by 2030.

    Car trade body the SMMT has voiced concerns that the postponement of the ban would see consumers delay the switch to electric vehicles.

    Nissan will also introduce new battery technology by the end of the decade that it said will reduce both the charging time and cost of electric vehicles (EVs).

    In an interview with the BBC, Mr Uchida said the company was aiming to bring down the cost of electric vehicles for customers, so that they were no more expensive than petrol and diesel cars.

    Last year, it announced plans to invest £1bn in expanding the facility that sits next to its Sunderland car plant.

    Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch recently told the BBC the government was optimistic that a deferral could be secured.


    The original article contains 502 words, the summary contains 143 words. Saved 72%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Hhmm what about their navaras, patrols, etc? Electric can’t tow caravans, trailers, etc around the Australian outback yet. Is this just UK?

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      The very first sentence of the article:

      Nissan will accelerate plans towards electrification by committing that all vehicles sold in Europe will be electric by 2030.

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      Electric motors can deliver a lot more torque than ICEs, which makes them very much suitable for towing in terms of power, they just need to deliver larger battery packs to compensate for the weight of the towed vehicles, otherwise the range will be limited.

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        That they can. 100% torque at 0 rpm. The issue is reliable distance capabilities in remote areas. Currently, they just can’t do it.

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    Aren’t their gas cars already catching on fire? They might wanna like… Iron that out before making evs.

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      Nothing they do to stop the combustion engine fires from getting out of control, will be applicable to preventing fires in electric cars.

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        Lol I think their incompetent QA/QC department would like to speak with you.

        Nissan vehicles are hot garbage. Go drive a Leaf sometime and see for yourself

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          Huh? I’ve had a 2018 base model Leaf for over 4 years, and here’s the sum total of my issues:

          • Car didn’t recognize the door was closed at one point, preventing me from shifting out of park (issue was due to dents in frame caused by occasionally closing the door on the seat belt buckle, which was positioned at the same height as the sensor switch built into the door that gets depressed when door is closed. Fixed in 5 minutes by wadding up a small ball of packing tape and taping it to the frame where it comes in contact with the sensor switch)

          • It occasionally doesn’t load the Bluetooth module properly, fixed by restarting the car

          That’s literally it. It’s been rock solid otherwise, and it gets driven literally every day.

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            A 4 year old car should have zero issues but I say that being a Toyota owner.

            The Leaf’s air cooled batteries lacking any kind of thermal management is usually a deal breaker for most folks. But yes, I’m sure Nissan chose to do that for quality reasons.

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              I’ve had the car in the shop for repairs precisely zero times, and the one actual problem I’ve had was mostly my own damn fault and once I figured out what was going wrong it was a literal 5 minute fix. I’d call that zero issues.

              And the air cooled battery is literally not an issue unless you fast charge it multiple times in a day. The number of times I fell under that scenario in 4 years of ownership was precisely once, when I going on a weekend road trip for my birthday, and I opted to rent a hybrid for that instead. I consider something that covers literally 99.999% of my driving needs, has needed zero shop time beyond routine maintenance, and has saved me literally thousands of dollars in gas money to be a pretty good deal.

              Now, to be 100% fair, I wouldn’t recommend someone buy a Leaf today because its CHAdeMO fast charger is obsolete. But the car itself is perfectly fine.

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              I have a 10 year old Toyota with 180k miles that has only needed a brake switch replaced and I’ve just now gotten an EVAP light on which could be as simple as a new gas cap or potentially the purge valve or solenoid which are both simple, inexpensive fixes. Zero other issues since buying it at 30k miles. I totally agree that most Nissans are crap (not quite as bad as a Stellantis vehicle) and are marketed as options for people with bad credit (not to say bad credit = bad person just that they aren’t built with quality in mind).

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                Yea that was my point re: Nissans aren’t hat they used to be.

                A brain damaged chimp could get financing for a Nissan. They certainly aren’t designed for quality anymore, regardless of fuel system

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          It’s odd because I always considered them right up there with Toyota and Honda but between their transmission and engine issues over the past decade they’re clearly not in the same league.

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        Sure, but the fact that they’re selling fucking bombs isn’t exactly comforting, especially when ev fires are significantly more devastating and harder to extinguish than gas car fires.