If you have the Brave Browser installed on your Windows devices, then you may also have Brave VPN services installed on the machine. Brave installs these services without user consent on Windows devices.

Brave Firewall + VPN is an extra service that Brave users may subscribe to for a monthly fee. Launched in mid-2022, it is a cooperation between Brave Software, maker of Brave Browser, and Guardian, the company that operates the VPN and the firewall solution. The firewall and VPN solution is available for $9.99 per month.

  • GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    Installing as user does not require root, to be clear. You can use systemd without root by specifying user.

    • hottari@lemmy.ml
      12·
      1 year ago

      Installing a package requires root which will automatically give the package manager permission to write anywhere on the system. To create a systemd service in user that will automatically start at boot requires root, someguy here commented with the how.

      However you can run any installed binary via Desktop files as a user (no root) on login by writing to ~/.config/autostart.

      • GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        My comment wasn’t about installing the package. You seemed to think that systemd required root, which it does not. Further, you can have systemd user processes start at boot. I do this exact thing with Duplicacy, no root required.

        • hottari@lemmy.ml
          12·
          1 year ago

          The entire premise is for a package/manager to create a running/permanent service that will be started after boot AND does not require user intervention (for the avoidance of doubt, enabling the systemd service counts as intervention).

          One way to do this is to create the service file and do the symlink to a folder that systemd automatically runs on boot. For both user and system systemd files you require root to make these modifications.

          Another way is to create a Desktop file in the path I shared.

          If you have more ways I’d be happy to hear them.

          • GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Again, it’s not true, so you don’t need to keep acting like it’s the case. You do not need root to create systemd entries for a single user. Systemd is pretty much just symlinks all the way down. You can test this yourself, so I don’t know why you’re saying it’s not possible when me and many others in this thread have told you that you were incorrect in the first place.

            • hottari@lemmy.ml
              1·
              1 year ago

              I was correct you need root to create systemd-wide systemd service that will run on boot , user systemd files can’t. What they can do, is run after login. Which has more or less the same effect for a single-user setup. And I did admit I was partially wrong.

              • GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                This was never about runlevel 0 or 1 programs. This was always about whether or not a user can use systemd without root. Why would Brave need to start a VPN service at an init runlevel (before most networking services)? It would make more sense to start at login.

                • hottari@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  You entirely misunderstood my argument(s). The title says “Brave appears to install VPN Services without user consent”. My comment was an exploration of this using Linux’s tools (systemctl). But nevertheless, creating a VPN network requires elevated permissions.

                  • GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    Then why did you say “you don’t know what you’re talking about” and are just now bringing up systemctl? Moving goalposts maybe?