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    Who’d of thought. A billionaire a cheater. /s

    These people cheat at every aspects of life, society rewards narcissism, rewards people willing to forgo morals. We have systematised this were we can look at hi school bullies and have a vague idea where they will end up.

    These people aren’t worthy of our respect, and we need to make it known.

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    Idk how anyone can say he is not a real gamer after the nazi salutes seen side by side with his twitter history.

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      It reveals his character pretty well in a clear and verifiable way.

      He denied it strongly. Only to have people call him out all over the place which eventually triggered him to admit to it.

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        And more importantly It reveals his character in a way that some of his die hard supporters might actually care about.

        He’s been shedding fans for a long time now, but way slower than he’s been going off the rails, because the things he’s done have rarely been directly contradictory to the image his fans have of him. Sure taken as a whole they are, but individual actions can be written off as haters using cult logic.

        This though, this is… just so pathetic… so blatantly approval seeking and manipulative tendencies.

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      My initial reaction mirrored yours; who even gives a shit? But seeing how people have been responding, apparently quite a few. And I’m left here, just utterly blown away that it’s this that is making people angry. This? Not all the Nazi shit? Inciting riots? All the molest-y allegations? Lying about a goddamn video game?

      Please, asteroid, hurry the fuck up already. C’mon monkey pox, do your stuff.

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        Believe it or not, a lot of us are actually capable of being angry about more than one thing at a time.

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        N n nope. Doomerism will not due. The masses without a voice do not deserve to be flushed away just for the sake of being written off along with the outsized vocal minority of status quo warrior right wing authoritarians (and liberal sympathizers of such)

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    I’m sure if there was actual worthy news this wouldn’t be reported on however there is obviously nothing else happening so clearly we need to talk about this instead.

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      Whatever you want to call it, it’s inherently dishonest to take credit for skills you don’t have and achievements you didn’t earn.

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        No one is arguing that it isn’t dishonest. NO ONE.

        I’m just arguing that cheating is a different thing than boosting/account sharing. I’m not even arguing which is worse. I sometimes wonder if people can even read. I just corrected the terminology and BAM 14 dislikes. SO dumb.

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          It is cheating. I’m not sure what this weird take is. He used means that are against the rules of play to become statistically better than other players and rise in the ranks. Boosting and account sharing are against the rules. it is cheating.

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            Cheating would be if he used external software to modify the game state/gained knowledge about the game state he wasn’t supposed to have.

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              Other things beyond that can also be cheating. That is one kind of cheating but other things can be cheating as well.

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                When I hear that someone cheated in a videogame I think about using external software. When I hear that someone boosted in a videogame I think about account sharing. Maybe that’s just me, idk.

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                  From my perspective, cheating would also include account sharing. Would they give me the title for eating the most hot dogs in 15 minutes if I let 10 of my friends help me?

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          It’s irrelevant to the overall point and comes across as a defense of Musk by attacking an irrelevant piece of semantics.

          For example if people are arguing about pineapple on pizza and you say “pineapple is food so it’s ok on pizza” it’s not addressing the actual arguments being made.

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            If you think I’m defending him for boosting and account sharing - you are simply wrong. I just want the facts to be correct. Maybe it’s going over peoples heads cause I’m autistic (I think) or something idk.

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              Regardless of your intent, the context in which you make a statement matters. You were wondering why people were down voting you so I’m just letting you know. You don’t have to like it but that’s the way it is.

              I get being frustrated at people misunderstanding you, happens to everyone, just don’t stress over the imaginary Internet points.

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      The users on this site are so cooked. Mans is getting downvoted for using the correct terminology lol.

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      This is a troll account with a post history of straight trolling. Report and block is the only appropriate response.

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        Not everyone who has a different perspective from you is a troll, buddy.

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      Why yall disliking this? Have I said something that is not factual or something?

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        Yes, you are trying to be pedantic by pointing out that account boosting is not cheating. But it is cheating so not only are you being pedantic, you are wrong .

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          Here’s what ChatGPT says (and I fully agree with it):

          In PoE 2, cheating involves breaking rules with unauthorized tools or exploits, while boosting is getting help from stronger players. Boosting isn’t cheating unless it involves exploits or paid services that violate the game’s rules.

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            Boosting isn’t cheating unless it involves exploits or paid services that violate the game’s rules.

            So you agree that paying someone to boost your account is cheating?

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              I believe ChatGPT was referring to buying cheating software when it said “paid services”. It may have lost that part of the response when I forced it to condense it into 2 sentences.

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                You can’t even get the idiot AI to agree with you on this, but you’re still going for it. And that thing will agree with whatever you tell it if you argue long enough.

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        i downvoted because your semantics, while technically truthful, are dishonest to the spirit of the accusation

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          Well, I wasn’t trying to be dishonest. I just like my facts correct. If that makes you happy, downvote all you want.

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    Man who never earned anything a day in his life continues streak by not earning video game achievements.

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    What a loser.

    I totally understand people who use cheat engine or similar to break games and to have fun seeing what they can do. Skipping content. Whatever.

    But those that cheat to be able to boast… pathetic.

    And then he’s like “well, everyone’s doing it.” 🙄

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      Honestly, one of the big reasons multiplayer sucks now is because of cheaters. You wanna cheat in a single-player game? I couldn’t give less of a shit. But giving yourself an unfair advantage while playing against other people is pathetic and ruins the game for everyone…

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        Trolls & Cheaters & Just downright punk behaviour is something I don’t tolerate in MultiPlayer

        Which is why I opt for more Role-playing games like Space station 13 & Barotrauma (Not saying that there’s no crappy behaviour there, it’s just that those games are high-ceiling & there are less instances)

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        This ^

        If I’m playing by myself I’ll use cheats if I feel like it, like messing around, or if I wanna get that ONE unlock that I’ve been trying at for months now and I just wanna be done with it…

        But in an online game lad? There’s no glory in ruining other people’s fun.

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        Exactly. I never cheat in MP games, but I use guides and whatnot in SP fairly often.

        If you’re cheating in MP, just don’t play MP.

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        Yup. For me it is Lethal Company. While we run from tbe monsters in fear for our lives they have god mode, etc. Which simply ruins the cooperative aspect and just the entire game for everyone involved. Why even play? I guess they enjoy seeing people reaxt to their hacks but I dont give them anything, simply quit immediately as soon as I find out.

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        I totally agree.

        I agree so much, that I’m always upset when I see comments on a post about anti-cheat software that only focus on the downsides of needing it. They never acknowledge the need.

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          The benefit of an anticheat can be replaced by an old-fashioned kick vote system. The downside of an anticheat is that I’d need to install Windows and a rootkit on my computer to play some games. Not a problem till a younger relative is over and you have to explain how your gaming PC won’t run Fortnite or GTA Online for security and ideology reasons.

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            Yeah, I honestly like manually kicking cheaters! However, it is not enough on its own. It doesn’t help when BOTS join the game in hordes and outnumber the human players enough to make themselves impossible to kick…

            That is, I would prefer even bots to a kernel-level resteictive anticheat.

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              Passworded rooms then! Even in games where you play on a centralized server, it’s sometimew possible to have passworded matches. GunZ online comes to mind. I think that game had passworded mqtches. TBF that game had anticheat too, but it never really worked properly. Client side anticheat doesn’t work because someone will always bypass it somehow, and then the server doesn’t know that funny things are happening. And server side anti cheat is going to decrease server performance because you have to track more things in the server and trust the clients less.

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                Depends on the game. In mine, that would work for matches you organize with friends, but wouldn’t work with continuous public matches. Bot hosters would find the passwords and still flood the rooms. However, the safe place during the bot crisis were indeed community servers! I don’t know what exactly they did.

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                That doesn’t scale to larger games. Rust, for instance, has servers with many hundreds of players (and a huge cheating problem). MMOs will have thousands (and constantly fight bots). The nature of massive, real-time games makes self-policing solutions like votekick or manual whitelists infeasible. Manually investigating user reports is slow. And you pointed out the problems with different kinds of anticheat.

                It’s easy to see the allure of root-level monitoring, with all that in mind. Both for developers and players oblivious to or willing to accept the risk. Of course, it also isn’t a silver bullet…

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            I’m aware of situations in games where kick vote does not work, because they hacked that too. This is possible in some situations where the networking is P2P without an authoritative server.

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              At which point you can’t even have a truly functional anticheat because any client side anticheat, no matter how invasive, can be defeated.

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                They still make a big impact on culture and social norms surrounding cheating. But you’re right. There is no fool proof anti-cheat. Software or hardware. Server side authoritative or Peer to Peer. Even with streaming only (Stadia/GeForce Now). None of them are perfect.

                It’s all about mitigation and not having a free for all.

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                  Especially since a lot of games are live service, and banning a regular player who buys cosmetics left and right for bad behavior is detrimental to profits. It’s not about making sure everyone has a good time anymore, it’s about “Getting those couple of whales to keep paying.”

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        It’s really rampant, especially in games that have aim assist and controllers/controller support on PC. It’s so insanely obvious when someone is using an aim assist device…i.e. no bullet spread on a small automatic gun and hitting like a laser beam at 60 meters vs someone without has a ton of missed shots at that range. Their KDR is magnitudes of order different. They ruin a match. Unfortunately looking to get them banned doesn’t do anything, seeing as using game features buil-in by the devs is a big gray area. It’s not an aimbot or ESP, it’s using and abusing the provided aim assist.

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      Well, since the only persons on his mind appear to be Trump and himself: Yeah, everybody’s cheating.

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      I mainly just have Cheat Engine in order to reduce save scumming in Monster Rancher and keep monsters I like alive longer. I specifically avoid doing anything with the online because I know it’s not fair to everyone else. Though some use mods and cheats for the same game just to make it harder.

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    If he says he’s top 20 player and it turns out he bought that account then what does that mean for the credibility of his other supposed achievements? Oops.

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    This goes against the TOS for both games. If you play either, I highly recommend flooding them with reports on that. It would be great to see him banned. He’ll probably just set up a new account and start again, but it’ll cost him and you know he’ll keep cheating so you can just rinse and repeat.

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      I would love to report both accounts; anyone know what his username/handles are? I didn’t see them in the Kotaku article

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      You’re talking about a guy that could pay 100 million dollars for a new account and not even notice. He obviously wouldn’t pay anywhere near that much for something like this. There is no financial cost you can force on him that will change his behavior.

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    Elon Musk attempts to draw attention away from his drug fuelled gaff

    Come on, you fuckin morons

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    I enjoy that the meta image is him doing the nazi salute

    Not that I like him doing it, just that it’s being shown around.