• teri@discuss.tchncs.de
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    10 hours ago

    I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let’s say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don’t think so. Sadly i can’t name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

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    19 hours ago

    instead of switching ive mostly just been ditching entirely. I need less time interacting with internet people.

    literally the only thing on this list im still using is facebook messenger, for my work colleagues. and youtube. everything else ive migrated (reddit-lemmy), or abandoned and torched

  • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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    16 hours ago

    Are any of these actually good?

    I mean, aside from Lemmy. I tried Mastadon and no one was actually on it, seems like everyone is jumping to Bluesky.

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    20 hours ago

    I was already on Mastodon by just having a Vivaldi (the chromium browser) account, and it’s just lovely I’ve spent most of the day setting up lemmy, even though I joined feddit.dk 2 years ago, it’s only just now I’m taking it seriously.
    And, while not related to the fediverse per se, I switched to linux a year ago.
    The only service that’s hard to drop/switch away from is Youtube imo.

  • breadcat@sh.itjust.works
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    21 hours ago

    I keep seeing this type stuff but neither peertube or friendica are genuine replacements at this point, mastodon is weaksauce compared to akkoma or a misskey fork, and loops is alpha software. also yes signal is centralized but it just works and has contact discovery so it owns matrix and xmpp when compared to whatsapp. basically none of this stuff is truly ready

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      1 day ago

      Loops will be open sourced later they say.

      Is Loops open source? It will be! We plan on open sourcing the platform after it reaches a stable and easy to maintain state.

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        That really is not a satisfying answer. It is incredibly nebulous and even if it did have a nice definition I guarantee most software developers will tell you a lot of software rarely reaches that state.

        I can see why they might want to avoid 1000 GitHub issues bike shedding things but they could open source the code and just not have open contribution

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          7 hours ago

          Sometimes you’re ashamed of the ugly hacks you cobbled together to reach MVP, and you want to fix the stuff you know you need to fix first before being thrown to the wolves. I can respect that, for a limited time.

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        1 day ago

        That means very little to me. Actions speak louder than words, and it would probably help the development of loops if it was actually open source.

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          7 hours ago

          For a lot of FLOSS projects, it’s common to keep the initial team small, so a product can be delivered fast, and gets opened up later.

          It’s to solve the “too many cooks” and prevent bikeshedding.

          A lot of corpo espionage is there solely to tank potential competitors, which include FLOSS projects.

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            6 hours ago

            Which I think dansup should deserve our trust on this for quite a long time for doing. It isn’t empty promises if they already made Pixelfed and opensourced it.

            Like… I suppose it could be a grift, anything could but I see no reason to question their goals or motives.

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        24 hours ago

        I was told that unless you self host, matrix is less secure because it leaks more metadata. Something to consider

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            18 hours ago

            sender, recipient, chatroom, what kind of event you sent (message, emoji, reaction, vote), if you responded to a message, room privilege changes, etc

            but it’s a question how big of a problem is that. they want to tackle it in the future, but that’s far away for now I think

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    18 hours ago

    Friendica seems like a new thing? No apps for that yet either