• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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        I’m trying to think of a precedent for this in the internet age, of a country screwing up and the online response being “Sorry! Please screw us over ASAP.”

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          It’s the FAFO strategy; if someone fucks around but doesn’t find out they will continue to fuck around.

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            We need Mr Adler to come in and tell them to stop screwing around. They screw around too much!

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          i guess its a bit similar when Garry Kasparov talks about Putins Russia.

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        Are you willing to elaborate? I’m not seeing it, seems to me that the most vulnerable will suffer from higher prices and such.

        I seem to remember your handle, think I’ve appreciated your takes in the past.

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          our most vulnerable are at risk of physical violence right now. our government is completely captured by corporations. our best hope is to hurt the companies that profit from our pain

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            Okay gotcha. My only hangup is this weights the second-order (and unfortunately somewhat hypothetical) effects over the first-order (and unfortunately guaranteed) ones.

            Status quo is going from untenable to “fuckin ???” though, so I’m with you.

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              not as hypothetical as you’re thinking. much more already present, just not hopping waves into the mainstream. it’s just that who’s getting killed and jailed doesn’t have an international voice, so people like me gotta say how much danger there is in america right now, especially for queers, people with accents, and people with darker skin tones.

              the thing to understand tho is that the cops and military are both simultaneously of us and against us. the people carrying out this genocide largely think that the people saying there’s a genocide are exaggerating. i guess what i would say, if you were Jewish in Germany in 1935, would you want international governments placing trade embargoes on Germany, or would you rather people abroad still buy the products your overlords made.

              the other way to think of it. we’re boycotting a lot of companies right now for harming us. join us in the boycotts. just like we joined Ukraine in boycotting russian goods starting in 2013. we understand not everyone will be able to afford to participate, but our best bet is to give the corporations giving us fascism as many consequences as we can.

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      That’s my idea too. I’m no accelerationist, but Trump is already dousing the country with gasoline, so let’s light it up and get it over with. Trump was elected because Biden failed to improve the situation for most voters. The next Dem will win by a landslide as Trump makes life so much worse.

      Maybe after that we’ll try someone third party and see if we can make the country better

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          I think Musk is too ambitious and egotistical to settle for being the president of the kind of backwater country that the United States will be by the time Trump’s term is over.

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          Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:

          No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

          The Framers appear to have adopted the requirement that citizens be natural born citizens to ensure that the President’s loyalties would lie strictly with the United States.

          Oh, the irony

          By barring naturalized citizens from the presidency, the requirement of being a natural born citizen, as Justice Story explained, protects the United States from “ambitious foreigners, who might otherwise be intriguing for the office; and interposes a barrier against those corrupt interferences of foreign governments in executive elections, which have inflicted the most serious evils upon the elected monarchies of Europe.”

          Source

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            I don’t have much faith anyone in power will care. Just not bothering with questions of legality seems to be their modus operandii.

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              Yeh I mean to be fair orange cheeto Mussolini is already talking about a third term so you might have a point here

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                There’s a good chance he’ll already have croaked by the end of this term. I wouldn’t put apotheosizing him below the republican party