• Vlado@feddit.org
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      9 hours ago

      Taking care of your defense is appalling? What’s the alternative? Stick our collective heads in the sand and hope no one will notice we exist?

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        4 hours ago

        Well you’re speaking like we aren’t already defended, and that’s not true. The EU plus Britain already spend 400 every year .

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          We will probably disagree on whether we’re defended enough. Is our defense budget sufficient to ensure that Russia won’t sweep through Europe without resistance? Sure. But the desired outcome is not to withstand the invasion further into Europe (at some point) but rather to:

          • stop the already ongoing invasion into Ukraine
          • prevent any further attempts to invade again

          Without increasing our defense, we will always be at a risk that Russia will try to invade even if it would be fully aware that it couldn’t conquer the whole continent. They can always do what they’re doing right now:

          • Depend on other allies to provide weapons/manpower
          • Try to grab single country and hope that the rest of Europe consider it to be too big of a hassle to defend it
          • Seed discontent among Europeans and try to sway people by “rationally explaining” that “why should France invest in defense when they’re far far from potential front line?”.

          We also need to admit, that our numbers spent on defense can’t be directly compared with Russia’s, because they are a single country. They have better control over their budget and over the control how and if the budget is spent. It’s a lot more complicated to get 100% of Europe on the same page when deciding how the money is spent.

          The best way to avoid all of this is by making ourselves not worth attacking. And not just by Russia alone, but by Russia backed by their peers. Do you believe our current budget is sufficient for that?