Everyday AI become more and more common, but can we say no?

  • zeca@lemmy.eco.br
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    2 months ago

    these negative comments are missing the point. Soon we may not be able to buy a phone that doesnt have an integrated intrusive ai that scans all you files. Android has one, ios has one. Whats the alternative? using lineage os or some other android rom? having to give up using banks apps and stuff that doesnt work in those roms? most people cant say no to having a phone, so lets ensure these phones arent so intrusive. lets legislate something about this…

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      2 months ago

      I live in Denmark, their state identification app does not work if it detects that the Android ROM is not straight from Google. So when I switched to /e/OS I couldn’t access anything any more. So yeah, in my case the solution was ta give up on one pretty critical app.

      Thankfully the solution was as easy as getting one of those old fashioned code chips, and everything else seems to be working fine (including banking apps from other countries). So now I’m rocking /e/OS and I’m pretty sure there is no way I’m ever going back to Google Android.

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          I think maybe it does, but I’m a pretty normal user who just used the Murena quick installer to get /e/OS. Reading up on Magisk after some web searches I quickly realized it was more than I could bite over without spending too much time trying to figure it all out. If people insist on making apps I can’t use I’ll just accept that I won’t be using them at this point. Their loss.

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      2 months ago

      Fwiw I can use my banking apps and anything else on GrapheneOS. It’s been smooth sailing all the way.

      • zeca@lemmy.eco.br
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        2 months ago

        im glad that it works for you, but my point is that we should have the right to have a non-intrusive phone just as easily as we have intrusive ones. People shouldnt be expected to learn how to unlock a bootloader, or import one of the few phone models that support these alternative roms with all security features in place. In the process of installing these roms, some people might fall into the trap of installing them from a suspicious source.

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    2 months ago

    We can control AI just fine. We cannot control corporations, who use sloppy AI for important decisions. A few court cases for unfair hiring practices will solve the problem rather quickly, it won’t be AI who will get fined, it will be CEO.

  • SieYaku@chachara.clubOP
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    2 months ago

    To be clear, the article is about people who don’t wanna use AI and hes chois or not to do it in a personal level. No an impose to those who embrace AI. Is more like if a person can chose to say not to AI, or in words from the article “those who are left behind is widening and becoming a social barrier”.

  • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Why can’t the rule be opt in instead? If I want it, I’ll find it. If I don’t I sure as hell don’t want some company telling me I must.

    Gtfo with that shite.

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    2 months ago

    I understand all the concerns about losing jobs and being left behind, but that’s also what happened when the loom was invented. An entire profession gone. Looms were destroyed in protests, people died over embracing the new machine and the inventors of every new version had their lifes threatened. But imagine if we we’re still hand weaving all our clothes today? Yeah maybe they would be more durable than what we have today, but you wouldn’t have many clothes, and there would be a large portion of the population just weaving fabrics.

    Same thing happened when threshing machines were invented, steam pumps, cranes, the printing press. History repeats itself where jobs will be lost to new innovation but look at what new jobs and careers these inventions sparked.

    Its hard to see it now, but automation is a good thing. It will drive new technology where we will once again find new jobs and careers.

    Believe me, as someone still getting into my career which is being threatened by AI, I’m certain there will still be work that isn’t just manual labor.

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      2 months ago

      This is not very similar. As the other poster said, unregulated AI is a corpos dream, and it will destroy us even worse than billionaires already have. Give it 10 years, if you don’t work manual labor you’ll be jobless

    • PTSDwarrior@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Let me know how you feel when you are starving to death from not having any money from AI taking away every possible way to earn a living that isn’t manual labor or shitty service jobs.

  • CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Oh no, people are assaulting me with their different opinions!

    No - you can’t say no. People have a right to use AI in their productions, and your opinion cannot force them to do otherwise.

    As with anything - the moment your opinion starts to dictate other people’s lives, it becomes invalid.

    • zeca@lemmy.eco.br
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      2 months ago

      What if their use of AI affects me? Is my opinion invalid when my opinion is that you shouldnt be allowed to pollute a river that I depend on for accessing water? Have you thought about this for more than 2 seconds?

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        2 months ago

        Have you thought about this for more than 2 seconds?

        Have YOU? - Your example is clearly them violating the rights of others. This isn’t some paradox point of view or the “got ya!” moment that you think it is.

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          Your example is clearly them violating the rights of others.

          Yes, and its my opinon that they shouldnt be allowed to do so. Not allowing people to do something does in fact dictate their lives, so my opinion should be invalid, no?

          • CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            No, because you use the uppermost-bound of the statement. Your opinion doesn’t take precident as the opinion above it (polluting the river) already violates the rights of others.

    • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Re-read your post and try to pinpoint where you contradict yourself. If you are unable to do so, you could ask chat gpt for help.