• nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
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    No. They’ll need to fill out a form online before they go. Europe is only requiring this because the US has forced similar bullshit on Europeans for years cos “terrorism”.

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    The visa, which will cost about $8, is similar to the one that European tourists are required to get when traveling to the U.S., which costs $21.

    A very typical tit-for-tat.

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      I love Americans freaking out about being subjected to the same shit they force all others to go through.

      Americans have no idea how border checks work. Remember that next time they share opinions about immigration.

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        I know how boarder checks work. And I know that the schengen area has the best border crossings.

        I want more schengen. The US and Canada should make their own north american schengen area, it will cut down on so much unnecessary government expenditure.

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          Why not world wide shengen? Why shouldn’t all human beings have freedom of movement on the entire globe? Why do you have to ask permission before being able to move freely?

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            Because they haven’t paid taxes to run the services they want to consume.

            Because we can’t all live in the same place and people shouldn’t be forcibly evicted from their homes by violent people.

            Because it ruin the lives of people who don’t live on the absolutely lowest rung of quality of life.

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              Because we can’t all live in the same place

              Actually we can: “Standing shoulder-to-shoulder, the entire world’s population could fit within the 500 square miles (1,300 square kilometers) of Los Angeles.”. I assume your other claims to be just as easily disproved, but cannot be bothered, people can use search engines themselves.

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      Exactly - the title and the article is incorrect. Americans will still be afforded a visa-on-arrival for tourism and other approved short term stays. Additionally, the authorization is valid for three years and can be used for multiple stays within the EEA. I believe the UK is also implementing an ETA (edit, maybe I got the acronym right this time), but I think it is only valid for two years at a time.

      In a way it’s silly, but it also reduces that chance of a disruption/entry denial at the entry point to the Area.

  • twitterfluechtling@lemmy.pathoris.de
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    1. It’s not a visa but an ESTA. The visa is still granted on the fly on entry.
    2. The U.S. require the same the other way around, only the one granted by the EU is $10 cheaper and valid for 3 years instead of 2, so still U.S. citizens get an advantage
    3. EU citizens (like all other non-immigrants) have to, as far as I understand, disclose all their social media accounts when applying for a US visa

    Sources for (3):

    For VISA applications, https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Enhanced Vetting/CA - FAQs on Social Media Collection - 6-4-2019 (v.2).pdf should apply.

    What if applicants participate in multiple online platforms? Are they being asked to list all of their handles, or only one?

    Applicants must provide all identifiers used for all listed platforms.

    I reached that document via https://www.ustraveldocs.com/de/de-gen-faq.asp#qlistgen21 (“Apply for a U.S. Visa in Germany”) and didn’t find any hint for exemptions for German citizens or E U citizens, so I assume it applies. (But I might still be wrong.)

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      What if I don’t disclose my social media accounts? How are they going to know? It feels like to me like more surveillance they’re attempting to do.

    • yaycupcake@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Genuine question, how the heck do people who have a ton of social media accounts (some for a business, some for different topics, some they haven’t used in ages and maybe forgot about or lost the login for) actually list them all? If it were me, depending on the platforms required, I don’t even know where I’d begin. I very well might genuinely forget one I made 3 years ago, used for a month, and abandoned.

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    Because “including Spain, France and Greece” is a rather lacking description for 30 European countries:

    Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland

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    Well we’ve been paying the ESTA electronic visa for years now every time we’ve wanted to visit the US. It’s fair game to require the same

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    I’m confused, didn’t Americans need a VISA to visit European countries? They just jump into a plain and fly here with their passport and no questions asked?

    If it’s like this I had no idea…

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      Americans can go almost anywhere at moment notice with just their golden passport. Meanwhile people from many country has to submit countless documentations and bank accounts data for US visa only to get denied three months later.

      • I’m scratching my head at this comment because I thought EU passports were more powerful at this point. I thought the US has pissed off enough countries that there are many you can’t enter as a US citizen (admittedly mostly in the middle east, to countries I doubt most European citizens want to go either), but an EU passport will get you basically anywhere you want to go. Was I wrong about that?

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          German here. I had to go through a 3-month process with multiple, personal visits to the Chinese embassy in Frankfurt to be allowed one-time entry to China for a couple of days. Visa fee was 120€, IIRC.

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      Yep. It’s still the case, the title really isn’t right.

      Americans still get an automatic visa on arrival, they just have to fill out a form online for $8 first

      Europeans do much the same coming to the US with ESTA

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        I bet they will still give you the visa if you don’t fill out the form. They might make you fill it out in the airport on your phone or something though.

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      The visa, which will cost about $8, is similar to the one that European tourists are required to get when traveling to the U.S., which costs $21.

      That’s quite the difference.

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        It’s the same, but in the US you have to add the sales tax ($2) and then tip at least 110%. That brings the total to $21.