This is the face of a corrupt politician.
This is the face watching every message sent to your girlfriend/boyfriend.
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Of cause not. There will be provisions slid in at the last possible moment excluding MPs. And their aids. And their
sugar daddiesi mean donors
For everyone who thinks its good its voluntary, its not like that, you have to read this… https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/reality-check-eu-council-chat-control-vote-is-not-a-retreat-but-a-green-light-for-indiscriminate-mass-surveillance-and-the-end-of-right-to-communicate-anonymously/
I’m sure that requires that both parties agree right? I don’t want other people to choose for me if my chats with them are controlled.
How can this ageee with GDPR?
Sigh…
GDPR doesnt apply to data being processed by individuals or groups for personal use, the “household exemption”.
If you’re part of a conversation then the other person also “owns” the conversation and can decide what to do with it.
But the moment that data is voluntarily sent to the government, doesn’t it stop being “for personal use”? The premises for which that data was shared were broken.
Isn’t it pretty commonly legal to record and disclose any conversation to which you’re a party?
To voluntarily “opt out”, you’ll have to click through five different pages of confusing legalese, on each page looking for the light grey link on a white background, only to find the final link dead. You’ll have to fight Google’s AI in order to get a working link. Eventually, you’ll find the page.
The final link to preserve your privacy will have five double and one single negative; the “confirm your decision” button will have three more that appear to contradict the earlier question; and the “are you really really sure” message will contradict both.
The final message will say “Thank you for your submission. Please allow six to eight weeks for your request to be processed. While we will comply with your request, we cannot guarantee that our fifty partners will also abide by your wishes. Have a nice day!”
The EU, now the US mark two.
This whole thing is so infuriating. It just won’t go away and in the end we are all going to be surveiled no matter what. Privacy will be gone and it’s just disgusting. Peter Hummelgaard and whoever puppeteers him needs as much negative attation about this case as possible. The media is hardly covering it at all. Fight for your privacy!
As this version of the law is completely voluntary, I don‘t think it will change anything. Secure chats won‘t implement it, because it‘s practically impossible, and insecure chats won‘t implement it, because there‘s absolutely no profit in it.
It‘s still completely unnecessary to have a law like this, as it won‘t help with anything. But at least it doesn‘t force any messaging applications to either break their encryption or leave the EU.
Also, as this is proposal is finally put into law, there‘s one less battle to be fought by privacy activists (for now).
So all in all: The worst has been successfully averted, I think we can celebrate that. But the next privacy invading proposal will come soon enough.
This is just the start, probably easier to change an already existing law than creating a new one?
Actually, i was reading the link another user posted , and it seems like it is straight up bad.
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Yes
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I have to disagree with the statement that there is no voluntary law. For example, GDPR certifications (Art. 42) have been a thing for years, are encouraged by the EU, but have remained completely voluntary for organizations.
I totally agree with you that it’s important to stay vigilant and keep an eye on the further development of this specific regulation, especially as it still has a long way to go before actually becoming law. But I think seeing the compromise as some sort of trickery is purely speculative right now and doesn’t really do justice to the activists inside and outside EU organizations who have spent the last few years successfully preventing a mandatory chat control. A lot of the comments here seem very doom-and-gloomy, sometimes almost resigned, as if nothing has been accomplished by protesting these initial proposals. And I think, while there are definitely further battles ahead, it’s also a good idea to celebrate and remind ourselves of the accomplishments we’ve made here.
