• JoeKrogan@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    This is the correct response. Either everyone has protection or no one has. Not that I’d trust apple anyway but by pulling the service your average person is likely to make some noise because they can feel the effect.

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      2 years ago

      I’m not even an Apple user but somehow I still feel like Apple is one of the very last companies where privacy and the security of your data is more worth than a dime.

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        Nope, Apple sells your data just as much as Google does: https://www.insiderintelligence.com/content/apple-ad-revenues-skyrocket-amid-its-privacy-changes https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/12/22/23513061/apple-iphone-app-store-ads-privacy-antitrust#luMMel

        While people noticed their new policies against 3rd party apps, that masked the fact that those policies carved out an exception for first party apps, meaning they collect (anonymous) data on you through Health, Journal, Music, etc. just like every other company. “Trusting them more” is simply a result of you and everyone else getting hit with their privacy ads recently.

        Edit: “just like every other company” meant Google and Microsoft, i.e. the other big equivalent tech companies, my fault for not being specific.

        • steal_your_face@lemmy.ml
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          While I’m all for calling out companies for abusing your privacy, your own links show that they don’t collect as much data as google. They could (and should) be better though.

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            2 years ago

            Nope apple is literally worse than hitler, spez, and elon musk confirmed. Tim apple fucked my wife in front of me.

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              You lucky sonofabitch. You got to witness the ol Apple Pie with your own two eyes.

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          Anonymous data is actually pretty different to the data everyone else collects, which literally has your name and picture

          Apple’s data is useful for trends but it can’t be used to study who I am.

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            This comment needs to be further up rather than the idiotic takes that don’t understand the difference between anonymized data collection (Apple) vs identifiable data collection (Meta/Google/most other tech).

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              Well, then there’s also the people that don’t realize that there are all sorts of programs out there that will try to take that “anonymized” data and then tie it right back to a persons profile.

              For example, you can anonymize GPS location data, but just because you strip away identifying information doesn’t mean that you’re truly anonymous. It can still be obvious where you live and where you work. And once you figure out where they live (again based on anonymous data) you can tie that information right back into their profile and continue to track them as if nothing has changed. https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a15927450/identify-individual-users-with-stravas-heatmap/

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                That won’t work on Apples data - they group all the data into cohorts, so the anonymising isn’t reversible.

        • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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          As much as Google? Likely not. Does their carefully curated pro-privacy image actually match their practices? Also likely not.

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    2 years ago

    The incumbent government is circling the drain and are, it seems, determined to leave a trail of destruction and burned bridges for their successors to repair.

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    Apple may be sold to China. To set us all free. It relys too much on outsourcing and false information, real information is kept in china, sometimes they give everyone a different name. Taxes were so high and the United States was a blend of different places, this secret thing goes on where it’s different places after dark or in different areas, where they call it some other country. It’d take a communist party to control them all or to control all of the ones they use.

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    There are a lot of things to hate about Apple, but this I can get behind. Get people using 3rd party messaging apps too! Preferably ones with e2e encryption.

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    As a UK citizen, I totally support this. The more that the average voter is disconvenienced because of proposed law changes like this and the (unenforcable) anti-porn laws, the more likely they are to actually pressure their MP or change how they vote.

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    There’s legitimate criticism to be made for Apple, but this is something I really appreciate about them.

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    My opinion is that the US already has access to Apple devices data. If we consider this to be true, what the UK is trying to do it’s to match a possible enemy capabilities. Is this a valid point though? This woudn’t make this action less wrong, I must to be clear, but it would be more undestandable.

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    Those proposals will never be made law and acted upon.

    It’s infeasible nonsense to pander to the Daily Mail reading curtain-twitchers. They’ve had 13 years to try and do this. If they wanted to (and indeed if it was in any way possible), they’d have done it already.

    It’ll be just “Vote for us and we’ll make your children safe from nonces and muzzies!” until the end of time.