How about a four day work week and no AI? I’m so done with this timeline.
You’d only get paid for 4 days though.
You all get a four day work week!
Did I mention there are no more jobs?
Let AI take over in exchange for 4 work days? Nope. Still not worth it even it we would get it.
And jesus christ, Bernie. Please don’t let this AI psyslop marketing campaign be the note you end on. :-(
I mean what’s next? Bernie Coin?
I’ve had a few critisims with Bernie with what hes saying about ai recently.
I don’t want to discredit him because I feel hes doing what he thinks is best, and honestly is kind of all we got for a big name right now. The people in the anti Ai space that I look up to havent really reached the average American you interact with daily in real life.
I think much like all the other politicians he doesnt fully understand the technology, and hes coming at it from the perspective he always has had. Which is protecting workers from corperations, and pushing for more socalist causes. Which I still think we need desperately, I’m not trying to say otherwise.
What I am concerned about is that Bernie is in some shape or form aiding these Ai companies in some way.
Like pushing for Ai devs who try to create agsi to be sent to prison for 20 years sounds great but then you realize that Sam altman and elon musk agree with him, and you wonder why. Regulation capture? A morally ethical excuse to slow down when ai is hitting brick walls in progress.
And with the idea of a 4 day work week, and ubi. In theory yes I do want those, but if you been paying attention to the conversations around Ai and stuff like ubi you learn that in order for ubi to work they have to remove social security, healthcare, food stamps, low income housing which cost dramatically more than the measly check you will receive every month. Thats my worst nightmare, everyone only gets 600-800 a month and is left to fend for themselves in a world where ai manipulates them with dark patterns into lighting national Forrest on fire so they can get rich on polymarket. Or they have to use the claud slot machine to pay for multiple spins on a chance to get working code for their gig working job, that takes a 30% cut ontop of all the api tokens.
So I’m torn in some ways because I’m worried that the path through all this is riddled with mine fields, and we could some how end up in position worse than we are in now just due to how much people are pushing for ANYTHING right now.
The change I ususally see fit is much more radical and not really realistic, and I don’t see the general publics mindset really catching up for a few more years. And in two years the landscape could of changed dramatically.
4-day workweek and UBI, please.
Even when the progressives mention ubi it ALWAYS comes at the cost of removing all other social services like health care, low income housing, food stamps, social security. So imagine recieveing up to 5000+ dollars a month in benefits being taken away from you because the dumb majority is excited to get their 600-800 dollar a month bribe so that they can go yolo it all on so driven polymarket.
We need more social welfare not less. Trump already is gutting social welfare services to pump that money into ai.
The homeless don’t even get benifits now due to work requirements, and they can’t get a job because they don’t have a home. And RFK is talking about putting them in camps.
I don’t see why UBI has to remove the rest of social services. Feels like that would fit in the “More social welfare” bin.
I don’t need Bernie to fully understand AI before he continues advocating for the people. He also has enough of a track record to trust that he does not blindly believe the AI rhetoric, which is primarily pushed by the same Corpo types he usually rails against. I’d wager he’s also for adding guard rails and protections.
Its good to keep pushing for good things, despite whatever noise is going on. Perfect being the enemy of good has sidetracked many an effort. Like conservatives have had no problem taking their little victories over the years chipping away at rights before going full out fascist. We need little victories do push back too.
AT THE VERY LEAST! All its doing is impoverishing the majority & threatening mankind right now.
We should have a 4 day work week anyway, maximum.
4 10 hour days, right?
/s
To be fair, when I was in primary school, we were assured that the “digital revolution” (or whatever hype phrase was popular) would halve working hours, etc. What it didn’t consider is that bosses would simply demand more productivity.
I mean at all. It didn’t cross their minds that we’d be expected to be twice as productive now that everything was twice as quick. (And so on). 🤯
As history has shown, repeatedly, the only time a worker wins is when they unionise, protest and fight for improvements. You get nothing for free in the mediaeval, feudal system of the workplace.
I suspect many of us will be getting 7 day weekends whether we want it or not.
I work in a call center doing customer support, I fear this every day.
The first couple of long weekends are nerve wracking but eventually your body enters rotting phase and then it’s not so bad and you kinda don’t want your 200 day weekend to end
How does farming or the trades interest you?
What a stupid fucking statement. There’s not going to be any workers left.
fucking lol
If less work needs to be done by humans, does that mean we can have Universal Basic Income, and get paid extra for the jobs that still need humans?
“Should”
The USA left “should” in about 1950. There is no “should” here.
Workers were abandoned by the Democrats long ago. Union membership is now less than 10% (and most of that is government employees, ironically)… it was almost 50% back in the “good old days”.
There is no labor party in the USA, there is no anti-war party, there is no anti-billionaire party. There should be. But there’s not.
Well, union busting prevents workers from banding coallitions and adding the unions. F-, blame Walmart and Amazon.
That was a thing long before Amazon and Walmart. It’s just capitalism in action
Back in the 50s they thought automation would mean we’d all have too much free time.
Too bad anyone left of Nixon was a communist.
Oh Bernie Bernie Bernie. AI is 95% vaporware. Stop fretting about the shit they claim they’ll produce but never will.
(Obviously changing technology requires some legal changes. Yes yes. But focus on the real shit that’s already happened, not the bullshit they are promising.)
I can tell you’re not working in IT…
It’s astonishing how quickly it changed the field there…
And indeed it’s quite a productivity tool since roughly half a year ago, not that it is fun, to use it all the time…
eh, i work in IT. the amount AI contributes is astounding. unfortunately i know one university having their compsci students now doing their projects using AI.
it definitely is an efficiency gain
i know one university having their compsci students now doing their projects using AI.
How to promote brain atrophy…
But I guess it’s difficult for Universities to adjust, indeed…
And yes, I agree, I write less and less manual code, but it’s not fun. Endless context switching is really not promoting flow states, that I had when I programmed for ours… Which I consider what made it fun in the first place.
Me too. But do you think people outside of IT will get the same boost? I think that 90% of IT work would be totally redundant if people knew a little of Python, all we do is guardrails upon guardrails. I have a suspicion that AI constrained enough for your average office worker to understand what its doing is not going to be terribly productive.
I hate how people are so used to getting ripped off that they hear “four day work week” and assume that it’s going to be 4-10’s.
Like this is Bernie. He’s not perfect, but he gets this type of shit right. Obviously he’s advocating a 32 hour, 4-day work week. It says so in the article that apparently no one read. But people are just so inured to everything getting worse all the time. Damn.
I also think companies should start paying for commute times, and that the time paid should be adjusted based on the cost of living in the area and the salary.
Of someone chooses to live 3 hours away when they could live in walking distance, that’s one thing. But I work for a municipality in a prohibitively expensive area. 0 city employees live in the city they work and literally 100% of households are multi-millionaires or better. I have a 90-120 minute commute depending on traffic because that’s where I can afford to live on my salary, but it also means I’m essentially working 3-4 hours extra a day.
Of course the city isn’t gonna pay me 50% again more money, but if they were required to pay for my commute time they’d suddenly agree that I only really need to be in the office about once a week for public meetings since mostly what I do is Teams meetings, plan review, phone calls and emails, which could be done just as easily from my home office as at City Hall.
Shit - I get more done remote because I don’t have to deal with people walking in without an appointment and demanding a meeting.
best companies can do is: fuck you get back in the office. butts in seats. 29/8 grindset. ₖᵢₗₗ ₘₑ
Not to be argumentative or anything like that, just wanted to state that I used to have a job where we worked 4 tens and I loved it. Two more hours a day kinda sucked, but having a 3 day weekend every week was nice. Granted, 4 8s would be better if I still made the same money every week.
How about a no day workweek?
YOLO, bitches.
Wait… how long is your work week in the US?
8 days
I ain’t got nothing but love, babe.
You’re lucky. I’ve been working 15 days a week, uphill both ways in the snow.
And I pay them for the opportunity.
