• Pons_Aelius@kbin.social
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    Negotiate an end to the war.

    Russia refuses to give back the lands seized.

    Now what to you do?

    I’d support a UN monitored vote in the Donbass region and Crimea (and any other contested area) on whether they want to join Russia or stay with Ukraine.

    Not an option the Ukrainian gov will accept. Nor should they.
    When parts of the USA wanted to leave that was not response from the USA.

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      Not an option the Ukrainian gov will accept

      Losers don’t get to dictate rules, the negotiations will be between Russia and US/NATO, it doesn’t matter what the client state thinks.

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      I don’t expect Russia to give back lands seized. I expect the will of voters to be respected by both sides.

      The Ukrainian government will accept any option we give them. They’re our puppet.

      When parts of the USA wanted to leave that was not resonance from the USA.

      That sure as hell wasn’t democratic! It’s not like Black people got a vote.

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        I expect the will of voters to be respected by both sides.

        We are talking reality here not what you want.

        That has already been rejected. It is not an option.

        Again: Russia will not leave, Ukraine will accept nothing but a return to the pre-invasion 2014 borders.

        What do you propose?

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        Rofl. You expect russia, whos already announced putin has won his next election, to respect the will of the people.

        Would you like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge as well? I got the title right here.