Tesla’s value plunged nearly $200 billion since mid-July – and the EV maker faces a bumpy road ahead::Tesla shares closed Tuesday at just over $233, well down on their 2023 peak of $291.

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    1 year ago

    True, musk sucks. like I said. the downvotes are hilarious. guess a lot of the maga trolls followed here from reddit too. the more popular it gets the worse it will become I expect.

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      1 year ago

      I agree that Tesla has done a lot to push us towards a more sustainable future with cars, and unfortunately I have to give Musk some credit for that also. The thing is, I don’t think you can separate Musk and Tesla like you are trying to.

      Without Musk there really isn’t a Tesla. Even now they are very tied to him and his way of thinking. Nobody but Musk would ask someone to design the Cyber truck, and nobody but Musk would even call it that, or name the other vehicles so they spell S3XY, or release beta driver assist /self driving software to the public.

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        1 year ago

        I think you can separate them, my comment was responding to the moron calling it the maga car, which is a stupid thing to say. I live in hope musk will eventually be pushed out. he’s quite an awful human.

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        1 year ago

        Engineers used to put easter eggs in all sort of things they develop. From references in naming schemes to hidden comments in code. All of it wasn’t obvious to anyone not in the know. They are nerds living their nerd dreams.

        The problem is that it is Elmo’s entire MO to put memes in everything he tells other people to create. He wants to be seen as the memelord. And all of them need to be as obvious as possible so everyone recognizes them, or it would lose its point.

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        1 year ago

        Without Musk, you have 87% of Tesla (when you measure by shares of ownership). I’m surprised other shareholders haven’t tried to fire Musk as CEO.

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          It’s not just the share percent, it’s the whole company culture, he is the face of Tesla and his crazy thinking and over promising got the company this far. I doubt it would have gotten this far with a more rational and ethical CEO.

          He is the ultimate hype man, without him Tesla just wouldn’t have the same pull IMO.

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            1 year ago

            I agree with you that’s he’s a good hype man. But Tesla doesn’t need hype any more; they just need to solidify their lead over the EV market. At some point, hype and headline-grabbing turns from a fundraising asset to a corporate liability.

            At a $747B market cap, I’d argue Tesla has definitely crossed that line.

            Honestly, if Musk poured himself into a new futurist investment, he’d probably do better than he is doing right now… encumbering America’s biggest EV manufacturer with stock leverages for a social media platform he took off the public market and completely tanked the valuation for is not a good look.

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              If you had someone honest at the head of Tesla saying realistic stuff like “we won’t have FSD for at least a decade, robotaxis even longer, and it’s going to take more than just the cameras we have” and “due to legal liability concerns we are pulling FSD from the market until it’s ready” , I don’t think you would have nearly that market cap.

              Tesla built that market cap off Mr Hypeman, the market cap only begins to make sense if those hype promises are realistic. If Mr Reality takes over Tesla that market cap is going to crash hard, they need Mr Hypeman.

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      1 year ago

      No, pretty much no MAGA fans are here. I think that’s fair self-evident reading popular comments, you’re more likely to run into a fan of Chairman Mao.