Hello nice people,

I’ve been using NiceHash app for some time 5-6 years ago. (It was a simple app for mining cryptocurrency and you get paid in bitcoin on their wallet, then you could transfer bitcoin to another wallet.) It was working fine until they got hacked (or fooled us) and lost all crypto. Luckily I didn’t loose much like some guys did. I decided not to use the service anymore and I’m still receiving stupid e-mail newsletters. I tried to unsubscribe and It asks me for login, I know password, but don’t have 2fa anymore. Also I don’t have backup 16 words.

Now support told me that this is the only way and I feel ridiculous about taking selfie just to unsubscribe. Am I protected against this somehow? I live in Europe and I think Nicehash is located in neighbourhood.

And of course I never wanted to subscribe…and I don’t think I ever verified account with a document.

What are my options other than just filtering that shitty domain as spam?

edit: typo

    • Astroturfed@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Don’t point out how all their bullshit requires middlemen and accounts holding their currency to make it work. That makes it looks silly. Almost like it’s just more complicated harder to use money that people can more easily steal from you.

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        1 year ago

        I love talking to tech recruiters… We are a defi startup revolutionizing the financial world… “Cool, so distributed smart contracts, zero knowledge open source swarms?”… no, we run a centralized website where people give us money and we do a thing for them…

        Putting the central back in defi. It’s almost like their is willful ignorance in what their own words mean.

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    1 year ago

    A requirement beyond an email address to unsubscribe from an email newsletter is illegal in most western countries.

    What’s wrong with filtering their domain?

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    1 year ago

    If you really want to be keep using the service, get a non watermarked random guy’s pic (he must be holding something) from the internet, write what they want on a paper and edit the pic so that the guy is holding what you wrote. This might not work because of the personal ID requirement but trying it doesn’t hurt.

    They usually have a face detection algorithm running along with ocr and rarely check if this is a stock photo. I need to use Instagram to be in the loop. They blocked my account for using Barinsta so I did this and they unblocked it.

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      1 year ago

      Hehe this made me laugh. Thank you!

      Your story is also about nicehash? I might do that if I manage to digure out that pic. I will try

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      1 year ago

      But if OP did not provide “selfie” during registration, providing it now doesn’t help confirming his identity so it doesn’t fall into that category. I would aks them how do they justify that and if they are trying to discouraged me from deleting the account.

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      1 year ago

      Also, Im not trying to delete account (but that eould be ideal), Im just trying to unsubscribe. I guess it doesnt matter here FML 😂

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        1 year ago

        They should unsubscribe you by simple request and only need your e-mail for that. You could verify by clicking a link in an unsubscribe email.

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      1 year ago

      They can’t ask for more information than what they needed to create your account.

      But maybe they’re seen as a bank and then they have to confirm your identity with a copy of your id.

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        1 year ago

        Ive never heard of bank asking selfie. I wouldnt even provide ID, but that would make bit more sense

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          In Germany I’ve had multiple contracts that needed identification. They use trustworthy third party services for verification though.

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            Ive used face scanning on some other crypto service, but didnt know its a thing in banking. Thanks for sharing, but it still doesnt explain why I need that just to unsubscribe. I could accept that they are trying to protect me, but they obviously have diferent plans. My experience and recent communication with support proved NiceHash is ran buy toxic garbage and not by people who run a bank or anything close to that.

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              They need to be sure it’s you who’s unsubscribing, I suppose. There’s been enough social engineering to not rely on emails only.

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                I see that selfie is the only solution to unsubscribe (if not involving lawyer or just spam filter).

                I understand what you are saying, but If I lost my email why would they send newsletter to a new owner? It just makes no sense since 99% can be unsubscribed with no login or whatever they ask.

                Sorry, its hard to accept any safety meassure as explanation due to bad reputation of NiceHash. Also after talking to human support I just feel even less safe tbh, but it doesnt surprise me at all, its company that took my crypto back in a day.

                Ill try fake pic when I get some time to burn

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      Thanks for the link. Feels bad tho 😭 gdpr gave me Accept/Reject cookies and some more pain as a bonus it seems 😂

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        GDPR didn’t give you cookie banners, it’s shitty websites that do.

        If they were to just follow activated “Do not Track”-Preferences, they wouldn’t need to ask, instead they would deactived them by default. Or you could just not use cookies, it’s not like somebody forces you to give cookies out to your website’s users.

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    If it’s just the newsletters that bug you then just use a filter that automatically deletes them.
    I do this on my email account I use for websites I don’t trust too much and will probably sell the email address for advertising purposes. Sometimes they then subscribe me to their newsletter and the unsubscribe button in the newsletter is often fake. So I use filters that delete them immediately.

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    7 months ago

    How exactly does that verify that you are the owner of the mentioned account nor verify legitimate interest in withdrawing consent from being included in their marketing campaigns!?

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      I actually made enough each month to pay rent for almost 2 years during the Covid pandemic (subtracted the energy bill).

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        I made enough to pay for the 3080 I was mining on and heat my office in the winter at the same time.

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      Hehe, I dont blame you for approving that as a punishment. I feel lucky for not losing more than 50-100$

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    You should just block them. Otherwise try with ai generated images, i heard midjourney works really good. But if you wanna cause damage threat to sue them if they dont whant to unsubcribe. You can probably do it since you are on european union and they take this type of shit seriously afaik, probably could do something aboit the money you lost too if it turms out they where being fishy aboit it.

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    If its just to verify does that mean they already have the information on record, like their picture? If not whats stopping someone from using someone elses picture and photo editing in the requirements?

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      They dont have a picture, but they have some information, probably a minimum that was required to create account. I dont remember exactly, it was long time ago. Photo editing requires skill and time. Maybe I can ask AI 😂

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    well at least they provide this as an option. usually if you lose your 2fa, hardware keys (such as android phones) AND recovery codes, your account is gone. period.
    there’s literally no other way to confirm your identity without something like id or a credit card if your credentials are gone.