only a handful of investigators at most have been assigned to work on the Nord Stream case on a full-time basis.

the perception among investigators is that the will to solve the case is not particularly pronounced in the capital. Politically, it is easier to live with what happened if it remains unclear who is behind the attacks.

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    I mean, there are active duty Ukranian soldiers that are missing limbs. How exactly did a forever war in Afghanistan work out for the general populace aside from annihilating a generation.

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        They aren’t interested in liberating Ukraine either. They have been on the wrong side of every fucking military conflict for like 75 years, but now they have decided to be liberators?

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            No, I remember the cold war and the multiple proxy wars the US instigated then too. They were in the wrong and the destruction of the USSR was a tragedy. The neoliberals got exactly what they wanted in the creation of the Russian Federation, but that just meant more war in the end, as we see with the current conflict. Yeltsin was NATO’s guy, and Putin was Yeltsin’s guy. Fuckin’ whoops.

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      there are active duty Ukranian soldiers that are missing limbs

      Then ask Russia to stop invading? That would help.

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        Have you ever played 4x games? What does it mean when an opponent starts ringing your territory with bases and trying to get everyone to ally against you?

        Also if Russia just packed up and left today do you believe that there wouldn’t be an immediate ethnic cleansing of the eastern Ukranian, Russian speaking population?

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          immediate ethnic cleansing

          You mean the removal of the russian population that was occupying crymea? Besides those, I’m sure that there will be a lot of hate for russian speaking people, but tough fucking luck, guess why. Russian could have not invaded crymea and people would not have harboured hate for the ethnicity and language.

          “Oh thanks for packing up and leaving, now my territory is destroyed and economy fucked up, thanks!” of course that people will blame tons fo thing in Russia, it’s what I would expect of any oppressed population.

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            Are you not aware of the fact that a large part of the population of Ukraine, especially in the eastern parts of the country, are ethnic Russians who were born and raised there?

            And why did you even bring up Crimea when the comment you replied to was clearly about Ukraine? Stop being dishonest.

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              Because it’s part of eastern Ukraine. In any case, I believe that it’s unfortunate that those people are recieving hate but what did you expect from other ukranians since the Crimea invasion? ofc the whole other country is pissed with Russians as a whole! I know that it’s not their fault but it’s hard to control the masses, and this doesn’t even remotely justify a second invasion.

              I really don’t get why you say I’m being dishonest when I just disagree with you, it’s like you think I know more than what I’m telling and I’m saying what I am to sway the public opinion in a certain way, and while I’m sure there’s people like that, accusing everyone that disagrees with you of being dishonest really does a disservice to your argument.

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                Because it’s part of eastern Ukraine.

                No, it’s not.

                I believe that it’s unfortunate that those people are recieving hate

                No, you very clearly don’t. You have said that you want them to be “removed”.

                You are obviously dishonest.

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                  No, it’s not.

                  It’s still the source of the increasing hate Ukranians have for Russia. “Oh geez why do they hate us we just invaded their country lol xD”

                  No, you very clearly don’t. You have said that you want them to be “removed”.

                  I said that I want people from crimea removed because those are russians settlers that came to live there after the invasion in 2014, they are not ukranian citizens. If those setters ahd kids and those were born in there, it is what it is, they are still settlers that went to live there illegaly with no citizenship. I think that is unfortunate that Russian ethnic Ukranian citizens living in Donbass are recieving hate, but those people are not going to be removed from their homes, or whatever is left of those cities to be honest.

                  If you are saying that any person with russian ethnicity is going to be removed from donbass either by murder or exiling them into russia, I disagree. If you mean that they are going to prohibit any russian customs/language and purge the way they liked to leave, and thus cleanse the ethnicity, then I do agree with the fact that they are going to do that, and while it’s unfortunate, I find it quite natural after an invasion. However, if those people have been in favour of the invasion, then they are clearly and unequivocally traitor to the country they want to live in, and it’s on them if the get exiled. Like, it’s not even a question that if you ally with the invading force you are a traitor to your country.