Tesla has consistently exaggerated the driving range of its electric vehicles, reportedly leading car owners to think something was broken when actual driving range was much lower than advertised. When these owners scheduled service appointments to fix the problem, Tesla canceled the appointments because there was no way to improve the actual distance Tesla cars could drive between charges, according to an investigation by Reuters.

  • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 year ago

    You shouldn’t have bought an EV unless you plan to use it solely for driving around a city.

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      1 year ago

      Just came back from a EU holiday with an EV. 3.000km without any issue whatsoever. The gas car that joined us was 1 hour faster in the end (on a 12 hour drive).

      In the EU at least, a 300km range EV is stressfree and totally doable.

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        1 year ago

        When you get lucky enough and you don’t have 3 people in front of you wanting to charge, sure. We go on 600-800 km trips which is quite exhausting and don’t plan to spend additional hours at chargers

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            1 year ago

            No, phev is literally the worst. You have to charge it and fill it with gasoline, as well. As a result, it’s heavier and more complex.

            Hybrids are fine, though I still prefer regular gasoline.

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          Not sure what your location is, but have not had 1 single time where I had to wait at a charger. 9 out of 10 times we are alone at a charging spot of on average 8 available spots.

          Again, EV in EU is a non-issue. I often had to wait longer at gas stops in the past.

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      1 year ago

      How often do you take road trips? The vast majority of trips taken by car are within 20–30 km. An average EV range can easily cover most people’s daily driving needs.

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        1 year ago

        Of course. If you have averagely 20-30 km trips and charge the vehicle overnight, EVs are good. However, when you travel more kilometers and need to charge more than 0 times on the way to your destination, you waste many hours.

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          Have you actually road tripped an EV? You don’t waste “many hours” you spend like 15 minutes every 200 miles charging while you piss and walk your dog.

          I more than once have done 600+ miles in a day in the lowest-range Tesla available. It’s just fine.

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            1 year ago

            yes, you spend ideally 15 minutes, realistically more. With a gasoline car, I spend around 5

            In addition, my car is capable of around 600-660 km which is more than most EVs

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              1 year ago

              Here’s the duration of my last 5 fast charging stops, pulled from an app that logs everything my car does:

              8 minutes 12 minutes 13 minutes 5 minutes 14 minutes

              “realistically” i’m having sub-15 minute charge sessions almost every time. Not to mention this goes back a couple months, since I charge at home every night.

              If you drive 600km without stopping to piss, maybe a gas car is for you, but I’m not that miserable.

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                That’s 52 minutes. With a gasoline car you can have a 5 minute stop.

                I don’t drive for 600 km without a break but I also don’t need to spend hours at petrol stations. I don’t know where you live but in my country and for my use case, an electric car is only viable if I also have one gasoline car.

                It would mean a huge compromise for my needs. Getting an electric car is similar to getting a Unimog if you spend your time mostly at highways.

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                  It’s also five different trips? Where I stopped for less than 15 minutes each trip?

                  I don’t know how to get you to understand that basically no one is spending hours at charging stations. I live in the midwestern US (a notably poor part of the country for EV infrastructure) and my only vehicle is an EV.

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                  Not sure if you are making stuff up for the sake of it. But how you describe EV is nothing like the real world. Believe it how you want, but I will keep repeating (as an actual experience) that EV is a non-issue in this day and age.

                  On longer trips (1.000km and more) it will take approx 10% more time. Which is a no brainer.

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                    Well, for me the difference between 10 and 11 hours would mean quite a drastic change. You are free to use an electric car if you like it but unless they cannot be charged just fast as gasoline cars can be filled, I won’t get one. Also, not every part of the world has enough tesla superchargers and not everyone can afford to get a car for the price of tesla. Most absurd is that tesla model X can cost literally more than Land Cruiser