Doug [he/him]

Of course we did they look great

I bet those bounce and shake nicely

But for who? Just him?

You two should probably not date

…or fuck

So more Gmail than G+

Might Bluesky be doing the same?

In fairness, Gmail had a similar invite system when it launched and that’s been way more successful than G+

I suspect something else is going on there. I made that switch years ago and haven’t found a site that doesn’t play nice with Firefox in that time.

Nah. I’ve had a domain registered with them for years and I just got the email too

I think you’re wrong on the overwhelming majority and that they’ll still be fine with it should it happen.

Good luck I guess

And if a home invader with commercially available arms so decided it’s the end of your family. That’s how scale works.

But you don’t give in to a bully to avoid violence. That’s how you get more people/countries bullied.

This is not intended as a threat of violence. This is an analogy to make a point that should be obvious

My quote, not theirs. Also Russia is a bully. Similar to the kind that takes lunch money, but on a much larger scale

Except it’s less likely to be donation based and more likely to be fee based.

The fact that you’re aware of any kind of ad blocking for Netscape reinforces my position that blocking was a leader in the arms race

You’ve got an important word there. Scale.

Countries aren’t people but they’re made up of them. It wouldn’t take nuclear weapons to annihilate your household.

Russia has invaded Ukraine’s home and tried to lay claim. Now you’re suggesting they give up what was taken from them to satisfy your desire for peace.

The analogy the other person used is fair. In another analogy Russia is nothing more than a bully. We’ve long moved past the time where the advice we give is to just give the bully your money so they don’t beat you up and take it anyway.

And nothing of value was lost I guess

There were no adblocking extensions for early internet explorer so consider its share 0.

What you consider it to be is irrelevant. An extension wasn’t any more the only way to block ads then than it is now. Ad blocking has absolutely been happening longer than there have been extensions to do it.

Adblocking increased at twice the rate of new internet users

Which means it’s going to reach a critical mass at some point, no? What would you expect to happen then?

very obviously trolling or roleplaying

Damn am I sick of people falling on this regardless of what the disagreement is over or who it is with. Even if it were true, which it’s not, you have a better picture of the situation, at least if you’re willing to accept that someone legitimately disagrees with you.

I’m sorry to hear about your food

There’s something perversely amusing, given the conversation, how you seem to expect me to answer your question without seemingly being willing to answer mine.

I’ll answer, but not until you’ve extended the courtesy of doing so yourself with the questions you’ve already been asked.

And I get the impression you weren’t around for the first ad blockers. I recall it very differently and unless you have something to back up your end of it we’re at a bit of an impasse.

I’ve been around far longer than you think.

It absolutely has bearing. It’s directly related to how we consider our fellow humans.

It’s also not simply a question of more money. It can absolutely be a question of any money.

Is it ethical to consume a product or service put out for sale, in one method or another, to the public without paying for it?

If a local farmer sells eggs at a farmer’s market would you take one and eat it? Why or why not? Does the number of eggs he has for sale change your answer? What if others are also doing so? You did say there’s nothing wrong with trying to get everything for free before, didn’t you?

auto ad skipping has been a feature since at least 2002

And do you recall when the obnoxious banners and pop ups during shows started to happen with regularity?

any clearly separate banner, pop up, intermediate page etc placed around the main content

Given the above, what factors would you figure contributed to the decline of that type of ad?

I can block a banner ad

Precisely

As far as I am concerned content online is easily replaceable

I bet the people who hunted animals to extinction thought the same. At some point it stops being worth the effort to make another.

No matter what you or I do, web content will survive

See my previous statement about animal extinction

the market will evolve new ways to separate us from our money

And another like you will complain about it, block it, and the cycle continues while the masses complain about how it wasn’t this bad before without an ounce of consideration to their own part in the whole thing. Wanna guess how I know?

As a question, how do you feel about data mining and tracking?

This whole paragraph looks like it’s supposed to be some kind of gotcha. It’s not. I’ve made it very clear from the start what I’m against is blocking all ads. By all means block the ones that are legitimately malicious. But I remember when the blocker in the post announced they’d be allowing non-malicious ads, which met certain published criteria, to go through the blocking. Ublock was the new darling pretty much overnight.

I do block various ads and trackers. I do not blanket block everything that could be considered an ad.