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I mean with sweep generalizations like that you’d fit right in with the MAGA crowd, no wonder you like trump lol.

Yah fun things to talk about like “hey, isn’t it interesting how you have less medical rights now.” Jfc

Without ranked choice voting a third party vote is throwing away a vote.

Lol /iamverysmart

Ok Bud, gold medal mental gymnastics lol

My objection, my objection to what? I think you’re maybe taking the who “roleplay your username” a bit far. You don’t even know what you’re arguing at this point. You brought up a person wanting to get injected with bleach randomly like some gotcha when everyone here is in favor of autonomy. I agree people should be able to do it at home. Others shouldn’t be compelled to help but they should be allowed to help if they want to. What exactly did I object against?

I agree, it doesn’t have to be. But if you want assistance, that assistance can inform you before assisting. You can inject bleach at home, but a doctor doesn’t have to do it for you. Your autonomy does not obligate others to act and it doesn’t prevent them from giving you information.

So yeah, I’m %100 for it still. How exactly do I not understand?

Yes, the “No you are.” I’m in favor of %100 body autonomy, what nuance am I missing?

I mean you can tell me what I support and what I don’t understand all you want. I %100 agree with full body autonomy. I have a hunch you just see too black and white to understand the nuance I tried to highlight.

I do, %100. So now what?

You brought up a random hypothetical that’s not meant to be analogous but you used it in your argument… You asked if it was body autonomy to want to inject bleech, ignoring the nuance of being informed or not. It was a bad faith example, and you continued to ignore nuance to force an answer you wanted.

Your hypothetical is about someone making an uninformed decision that could kill them. This story is about a person making an informed one. Yes, if someone wants to do something that could harm them, without turn realizing, we should educate them. But if the person is informed and wants to take their life, that’s their right. And if a person wants to inject bleach, knowing full well what it will do, then that’s their right, it’s their life. Trying to parent every adult in the world is silly and insulting.

Lol and yours isn’t in bad faith. Comparing an informed decision to end their life against someone wanting to inject bleach because they think it will help them when it would kill them. One is misinformed, the other is not.

You’re the person who would force a baby to be born and live a life of pain, suffering, and burden on those around them instead of abortion. You’re not saving a life, you’re destroying them.

Answer me this, why? Why are you against it?

Ok now spend years of your life and your money making a thing that everyone just gets for free instead of paying you for. See if you feel the same way then.

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Yes and let’s put ID verification on anything that might have curses too. Can’t risk a parent not sheltering their child hard enough.

They nearly all used, your inability to understand how they’re used does not make it less dangerous. I’ve sat here and spoon fed you information over and over and you are at the point of asking for anecdotal evidence. You’ve shown yourself to not be knowledgeable about the subject at all, but fully willing to act like you are lol.

According to the market. That’s how reasonable prices are arrived at. It’s this little thing called an economy.

I’m not saying stealing is OK, I’m just being realistic. If you charge $200 a month for Netflix people will steal it. You can get upset and rant all you want, that’s reality. People refuse to be charged more and more for the same thing, there is a breaking point.

Also, it’s not stealing. This argument has been had and proved false. The large number of people who pirate content are very unlikely to have ever paid for it. It’s not stealing vs buying, it’s pirating vs never watching. The outcome of pirating or never watching is the same to the creators.

Right now I pay for Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max and Sunday pass. I’m paying for plenty. You’re just too ruled by your emotions to have an actual conversation, so you make wild assumptions and throw insults instead.

urgh, there are no NEW vulnerabilities in an old OS that does not get updates. What you are for some reason conflating (or using semantics) is newly DESCOVERED vulnerabilities.

Jesus, so you’re saying there will be no new ones made, now that is semantics. A vulnerability never discovered might as well not exist. But guess what you’re also not getting, fixes for all those vulnerabilities. So your stance of “you get no updates, but you also don’t get new vulnerabilities” really means “new vulnerabilities will continue to be discovered but you’ll never get updates for them. They will just be published and known by all, like a guide book on how to pwn you.”

The same argument can be used for current OSs (here from that same site as you provided:

Not it can’t, what are you talking about? New OSs get updates to address these issues. An old OS never has them addressed, but known by the world, which is a huge security risk.

Just please show me one report of some home user in the last 5 years who was a victim due to an out of support OS.

If you need an anecdotal instance of a home user (totally ignoring businesses for some reason) then you don’t have any concept of how these attacks work. Do you remember bleeding heart? Remember how it was used for years and never know? Hell “CVE-2022-22047” was only 2 years ago, and that was an elevated privileges attack, that could take down a whole company.

But ok, you need one that effects home users. How about this one: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-23697

It allows printer jobs sent to the home PC to run any code they would like. This means pulling info from your PC or monitoring it.

or this: https://msrc.microsoft.com/blog/2022/05/guidance-for-cve-2022-30190-microsoft-support-diagnostic-tool-vulnerability/