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  • I feel it’s less likely to be hexbear and more just generally lemmy being lemmy, but I can’t say for sure. On that end though, below is a TL;DR on hexbear.

    Hexbear is a large lemmy instance that hosts the previous subreddit r/chapotraphouse, a community thats based on a left leaning podcast that embraces “dirt bag leftist” style of discourse. (ie, very vulgar and often intense discourse) They migrated to lemmy after being banned from reddit, and have had federation disabled for a while due to being on a custom lemmy build. They are attempting federation again with an announcement making it clear they are doing it to try and pull political discussions towards their way.

    They were banned from Reddit for a multitude of reasons, biggest being their history of coordinated harassment and astroturfing against anyone that remotely breathed potential disagreement their way. Their community takes toxicity to a next level, not even just infiltrating discussions & attempting to sway topics their way but pretty intense coordinate harassment campaigning. We are not a political focused instance but they have been defederated just generally because I know that community from my own personal experience and I’m just not willing to deal with the excess moderation load that will come if they decide to federate with us. If you want a glimpse of why just look at the lemmy.world announcement about it here and look at the mass downvotes and very new accounts.

    I’m sure some people there are fine, but we are a team of volunteers and can’t really deal with a community that we have knowledge are very likely to make our lives harder. And for what it’s worth, most of the LemmyNSFW team does lean pretty left.




  • Thank you and absolutely! Our general ethos for LemmyNSFW is that with the implosion of reddit, it’s inevitable that some adults are going to seek out adult content so making sure its done right is quite important. For the purpose of the growth of the lemmyverse and keeping the community safe, we see it as an opportunity to not only learn from reddits biggest mistakes and make a new community that focuses consent and keeps minors out, but also actually attempts to foster a safe and controlled environment that other federated NSFW communities haven’t really been able to do so as they have almost always turned into a free for all. It’s an uphill battle with the limits of lemmy, but we are working through it and doing the best we can and building tools for ourselves. There isn’t a blueprint for this, we’re learning as volunteers as time goes on.

    When it comes to defederation, we truly don’t have issues with instances that defederate with us. There’s no hard feelings, no grudge, not even any ounce of negativity. We respect and honor that choice, and with the limits that lemmy has (especially right now) we understand why instances make that choice. And for the overall benefit and safety of the lemmyverse there needs to be instances that don’t federate with us too. Especially in line with our focus on consent. Ideally, there will be native ways in lemmy to block our instance, restrict our content in all for instances, and the implementations of more detailed content warnings.

    I will say that I personally use a different instance for SFW stuff, and I can say that I absolutely adore the people at aussie.zone, sopuli.xyz & feddit.de. The admins and communities at each of those instances are filled to the brim with absolute sweethearts and I have nothing but love and kindness towards them. It makes me sad when people feel there is some weird beef we have with the instances that have us defederated (especially those!), and I hope those instances know we don’t, we fully understand why they do, and we will never push them to refederate with us unless they inquire to us explicitly about thinking about doing so.

    Same as above, if we were simply defederated there would have been no hard feelings, it was everything else that was an issue.



  • Admin from LemmyNSFW here, not the one that posted but an admin nonetheless.

    I’m not really down with this being presented as drama as some are trying to, it’s unfortunate the way it played out but overall its their choice to defederate. We actively encourage other instances who forbid pornography to defederate from us. Lemmy.ml, sopuli, etc etc we are totally fine with, we have no malice or hate towards them because thats their choice and their reasons and concerns for doing so are more than legitimate especially with how limited lemmy is right now and the locations that they host their site at. We have open discussions with other instance admins and welcome discussions of their potential concerns, it’s just we didn’t really know what the concerns were beyond “this looks wrong because it looks wrong delete it” which made it extremely frustrating to try to figure out concisely what the problem was so we could address it.

    My only issue is it being presented as if we are fine with CSAM, when we aren’t and to be accused of that is extremely serious.