Jesus christ these headlines mislead everything.

They were using machine learning to try and figure out what people were buying. Machine learning has lots of errors until you train it. The “hundreds of workers” were training it by telling it what each thing was. E.g. it was creating training data for it to learn from.

The goal was to train ML enough so that humans were rarely necessary, obviously.

Innovation is part of the executive buzzword bingo board for all announcements.

It doesn’t actually mean anything to these people. The only thing that has weight is what will enrich the wealth of the ownership class (shareholders.)

I mean sure I guess… but brave as a browser is atrocious. I don’t trust their bullshit at all.

After all who doesn’t want a crypto wallet in their browser? that’s the safest place for it right?

Don’t forget heating and cooling too. There’s a ton of things that are necessary to operate while the vehicle is in motion and should never be delegated to a touchscreen.

I’m fine with touchscreens for in car entertainment for the back seats and maybe a passenger one with the appropriate shutter technology to block the driver’s view. None of those things are important for vehicle safety… but if there is a speaker that the passengers can control there needs to be a mute button for the driver to turn that shit off too :)

You think no one will pick up the old code and work on it?

You think the original devs won’t consider going back at it through a means that is anonymous and minimizes their risk?

I’ve never ever seen a platform with an emulator lose the emulator without someone eventually filling the void. The interest is there. More people than ever can code.

This asshole is just exercising his options to take money from the same moderators that were up in arms over his changes last year. Make no mistake, this is Spez’s revenge.

I really hope this whole thing backfires on reddit, but I think the reality is that it will further enshittify until it’s profitable, and it’s already so big it’s unlikely to fail.

Lemmy just isn’t a replacement and I think the nature of lemmy will stop it from ever being one unless someone throws godlike resources at one giant instance that federates with basically nobody.

ML can be applied in a great number of ways. One such way could be content moderation, especially detecting people who use alternate accounts to reply to their own content or manipulate votes etc.

By including IP addresses with the comments they could correlate who said what where and better learn how to detect similar posting styles despite deliberate attempts to appear to be someone else.

It’s a legitimate use case. Not sure about the legality… but I doubt google or reddit would ever acknowledge what data is included unless they believed liability was minimal. So far they haven’t acknowledged anything beyond the deal existing afaik.

Gut feel based on common tech platform procedures, right? (As opposed to a sourceable certainty.)

It would be PR suicide to disclose exactly what data is shared. Cambridge Analytica is a prime example of a PR nightmare with similar data.

I don’t even need to look at reddit’s terms and conditions to know that there is practically nothing stopping them from handing this kind of data over legally for anybody who hasn’t submitted GDPR deletion requests. I never trust compliance of laws that cannot be verified independently either because i’ve seen all kinds of shady shit in my career.

Since an IP address alone is not considered PII, can you prove that they did not provide IP addresses for each post?

Do you think it’s more or less likely that ip addresses, account names, private messages and deleted messages and posts would be included?

Remember that they paid 60 million dollars for this information and web scrapers have been capable of capturing subreddit post data for over a decade as is at a $0 price tag from reddit.

Where does it say they have access to PII?

So technically they haven’t sold any PII if all they do is provide IP addresses. Legally an IP address is not PII. Google knows all our IP addresses if we have an account with them or interact with them in certain ways. Sure, some people aren’t trackable but i’m just going to call it out that for all intents and purposes basically everyone is tracked by google.

Only the most security paranoid individuals would be anonymous.

Hey guys, let’s be clear.

Google now has a full complete set of logs including user IPs (correlate with gmail accounts), PRIVATE MESSAGES, and also reddit posts.

They pinky promise they will only train AI on the data.

I can pretty much guarantee someone can subpoena google for your information communicated on reddit, since they now have this PII (username(s)/ip/gmail account(s)) combo. Hope you didn’t post anything that would make the RIAA upset! And let’s be clear… your deleted or changed data is never actually deleted or changed… it’s in an audit log chain somewhere so there’s no way to stop it.

“GDPR WILL SAVE ME!” - gdpr started in 2016. Can you ever be truly sure they followed your deletion requests?

I can see it now, that ai model is going to be really, really fucking angry. lol

YAY FREE ADVERTISEMENT LETS GO LOSERBENCHMARK!!!11111

In all seriousness, these guys are ONLY the top google result because of all the “controversy.” They do it for a reason. Every time i’ve seen a thread talking about them i’ve literally downvoted it because the only way to stop the cycle is to just let them die a slow death which as far as I can tell is never going to happen. Their business model is better than anybody talking about them, posting about them, or generating ad revenue from making articles about them. We’re the clowns.

Yeah, sure, ok. We pinky promise not to use AI to generate leads that are then printed out on paper and put in front of a doctor’s assistant’s autopen for signatures denying insurance or coverage.

There is absolutely ZERO way to practically enforce this. An AI team can act like a black box, ingesting data and outputting hard copies that cannot be traced back to them. There is no way this will not happen.

“We’ll audit the company!” -> they’ll send the data to an offshore shell company that doesn’t follow the law, then the recommendations will be sent back.

Prove that legislation can stop this, just try.

Patent Proxy Services… at your service! We’ll register patents on your behalf for a small one time fee of $10,000 for low volume… or $10 for high volume! Plus the cost of actually applying for patent.

You provide all completed paperwork sans author.

Individuals who let their names used on behalf of this service have a contract with the company that pays them $5 for a submission and all they had to do was go on a website and fill in their personal info and hit confirm then accept a digital signed document stating that all patents they register belong to the company. Surely the poors will accept $5 at no cost to them.

“This infringes on advertisers constitutional right to deceive the public for personal gain based on our historical tradition of fucking the average american”-US Supreme Court Conservatives.

SEO, the methodology of ruining Google’s algorithm and enshittifying everything for marketing gains.

Laws are to protect the haves from the have-nots.

I think it’s pretty amazing when people just run with the dogma that empowers billionaires.

Every creator hopes they’ll be the next taylor swift and that they’ll retain control of their art for those life + 70 years and make enough to create their own little dynasty.

The reality is that long duration copyright is almost exclusively a tool of the already wealthy, not a tool for the not-yet-wealthy. As technology improves it will be easier and easier for wealth to control the system and deny the little guy’s copyright on grounds that you used something from their vast portfolio of copyright/patent/trademark/ipmonopolyrulelegalbullshit. Already civil legal disputes are largely a function of who has the most money.

I don’t have the solution that helps artists earn a living, but it doesn’t seem like copyright is doing them many favors as-is unless they are retired rockstars who have already earned in excess of the typical middle class lifetime earnings by the time they hit 35, or way earlier.