• JackbyDev@programming.dev
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    Using AI isn’t optional? How about you review me on the results I produce instead of the tools I use to produce them?

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    This is ridiculous. Have people seen the recent AI code review from Audacity?? This whole AI bubble needs to burst already.

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    It’s the same in Amazon software development. We have like 3 different AI tools. I enjoy it for unit tests and predicting the next two lines of a simple thing, but it’s not going to refactor our codebase.

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    Start using ai to write all your mails and communication with managers. Turn it to LinkedIn max

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    While true; do curl http://copilot/?query=what+is+the+time; sleep 10; done

    Bet the AI can’t see through this.

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      Ironically enough that’s is exactly the kind of seemingly “simple” question a 4 years old could answer… but LLMs can’t.

      Asked my better half to test DeepSeek locally few months ago and they, without trying to “trick” it (as I would have tried) genuinely tried “What time is it in Sri Lanka?”. That made me smile because I was rather sure there was no way the model could answer that. It would need to know the current time on any time zone then, if it’s not in Sri Lanka already (which it wasn’t on my local system) would have to convert it. That would be very basic arithmetic (that some 4 years old could also do) but not “just” spitting back words related to the question.

      Guess what… it failed exactly as expected. The model replied back “information” (which is being generous for a string of words arguably related to the topic, which was mostly about Sri Lanka, not time) and yet was basically irrelevant and thus useless.

      So… yes I’m not actually sure CoPilot could even help there unless there is a lot of custom made handling of this kind of queries upstream!

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    They must really want their workforce to be less efficient while dramatically lowering quality and security across the board.

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      except programmers are gonna continue with what they were already doing, at most putting a script on copilot to get the metrics

      don’t forget that if you don’t turn in the project in time you’re fired, the issues always get thrown at the coder, it’s never the company’s fault

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        Company I’m at also does the forced AI and it’s all but mandatory now. Problem is as code monkeys we’re past the point of heading down to the Winchester for a pint until it blows over. They’re pushing so hard in order to “not fall behind” that you literally can’t escape it. I think even malicious compliance won’t cut it. And when 8/10 companies that dictate the market say that “this is the future”, then this is the future they’ll make whether we like it or not.

        Edit: the silver lining is that we’re working with tools that are better than copilot at generating menial work like generating boilerplate code, unit tests, release notes, walls of text for app documentation etc.

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            We’re in the honeymoon phase, shit didn’t hit the fan yet. Problem is we devs are fucked either way. If productivity does increase, then workforce demand will go down especially for entry level devs and seniors will be relegated to vibe coding and fixing AI bugs. If it all goes south then layoffs, because line must go up!

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      They are banking on the AI will eventually be smart enough that it will replace the workers that fed it.

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    As a heavy AI user on a daily basis…Copilot is hands down one of, if not the worst, in existence.

    This will not end well for them.

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      Copilot suggested edit: This statement contains false information.

      -As a heavy AI user on a daily basis…Copilot is hands down one of, if not the worst, in existence.
      +As a heavy AI user on a daily basis…Copilot is hands down one of, if not the best, in existence.

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          I asked chatgpt (because this shitpost needs more AI), and it said:

          So while their names are different, the core AI technology is the same! It’s like having two different brands (say, Ford and Tesla) both using electric motors—the motor is the same technology, just in different vehicles.

          But comparing suicidal cars to a Ford is total baloney, so ChatGPT is full of shit.

          It’s been an honour to waste your time and 72L of water to get the AI to shitpost.

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      If I ask copilot to help write a power automate script or similar, I guarantee it will not work. It won’t make sense. And if I do it from within power automate, it wants to replace what I already have there. It’s a mess.

      If I pull up chatgot on my phone (because it’s blacklisted at work) I will get very clear, step by step instructions that are usually good enough or occasionally not correct but close enough that I can tweak it back on course.

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      Have found this too.

      We were only allowed to use Copilot at my last job, ChatGPT + the others were all blacklisted.

      We received SO many tickets from users across the organisation (including IT) requesting access to ChatGPT.

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    I had an interesting conversation today with an acquaintance. He has sent his resumé to dozens of companies now. Most of them, but not all, corporate blobs.

    He wondered for a while just why the hell no one is even reaching out (he’s definitely qualified for most of the positions). He then came to the idea to ask a particular commercial Artificial Stupidity software to parse it. Most of those companies use that software, or at least that’s what the vendor says on its website. Turns out, that PoS software gets it all wrong. As in: everything. Positions and companies get mixed up, dates aren’t correctly registered, the job descriptions it claims to have understood only remotely match what he wrote. Read: things even the most junior programmer with two weeks of experience would get right.

    And it is getting used pretty much by every big firm out there.

    Oh and BTW: There is ONE correct answer to the phrase ‘using AI is no longer optional’ : Fuck you.

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      That’s not AI. That’s just ATS. And it’s been shit for years. Definitely, definitely, make sure your resume is ATS compatible. Use the scanners.

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      I’m gonna be looking for a new job soon and I’ve been reading stuff like this more & more. Makes me really scared. I guess reaching out to recruiters directly via LinkedIn is more important than ever. I also hope the AI software hasn’t made its way down to small/medium-sized companies yet, since those are the ones I’d rather work for anyways

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        small/medium sized companies

        Sadly, those are worse. Since they don’t have the staff or expertise, most of the time they outsource to larger companies… that use AI. I’m almost 99% positive at this point if any of the sites use Workday, it’s getting parsed by an AI because that’s what ours does and it’s a PITA.

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    Apparently no longer optional for their customers either, based on how hard they are pushing it in Office 365, sorry Microsoft 365, no sorry Microsoft 365 Copilot.

    The latest change of dumping you into a Copilot chat immediately on login and hiding all the actually useful stuff is just desperation incarnate.

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      The process to log in to the online portal of Outlook is so bad it’s crossed into comical territory. So much friction, only to shunt you to a full screen clippy copilot page.

      I’d be curious to know what the usage statistics are for that page. Like, what could a person possibly accomplish there?

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    Fine do whatever you want to your shit company stop forcing me to use copilot on everything. This is worse than the failed clippy