Amazon sneezes, the whole internet catches a cold.
Im still seeing services up/down the entire day at work. Services that are not even AWS like Azure are slow for some reason (probably businesses failing over to other infa). Its crazy.
None of our in office infa is having issues. Managers are talking about fail-overs all day lol.
When a handful of people own all the companies in the world, the whole world becomes a single point of failure.
Soon: “Welcome to Amazon, I love you.”
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Its crazy, we are seeing unrelated services stop sending emails, issues with DNS, all sorts of strange stuff.
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They want to keep the news of the rally over the weekend as quiet as possible.
and the epstein files. i heard it dint affect international that much, so its rather covenient.
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games were affected online, plus apps, and then anyone in retail who does inventory, order writing.
It’s almost as if centralizing everything is fucking stupid.
But the bean counters said it was the best idea!
So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed? You young ops have gotten soft! Learn to live by ChaosMonkey or die by the Gorilla.
Yeah, but proper failover and recovery requires additional infrastructure, and that costs money.
Hopefully a bunch of risk management people are writing I-told-you-so emails to C-suites right now.
Yeah but not to worry, C-suites have pretty good filtering rules in place to never read them. Saves time, really.
And plausible deniability.
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AWS is a huge suite of products and services, and there’s a lot of old legacy shit running on it.
Yup, AWS is legacy cloud. It was only recently that they set encryption by default on S3 buckets, before that they were just in the clear by default.
Cybersecurity and disaster recovery are not directly profitable, so they are almost always neglected in your average shop.
It’s never important until suddenly it’s the most important thing in the world.
So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed?
Either that, or the reports stopped coming in since it’s a school day.
I think they’re the only ones doing multi-cloud. If us-east-1 shits the bed, it’s a bad day for AWS in general.
Roblox doesn’t really lock down regions unless they are China. The game client can connect to any server they own. It naturally falls back to the server with the least issues without prompts and intervention. If for an even bigger example all US servers were to go offline, the client automatically redirects people to either Europe or Asia based on ping.
Jesus Amazon is a big enough company they should be doing their own hosting not using AWS.
They’re big enough to be a utility and be nationalized!
And should be
Amazon is using their own hosting. AWS stands for Amazon Web Services. Or did I miss the joke?
Miss
I was confused too, but I’m still glad you didn’t add the /s because that always kills the joke.
I don’t always downvote posts that use /s, but I do always downvote posts that complain about someone not using it.
Sarcasm is ok but deadpan is where it’s at.
This is the take. Let people communicate however they want, sarcasm indicator or not; it’s the insisting that others follow the convention you prefer which I find actually bothersome
I for one don’t think you missed anything
Once upon a time they insisted that Amazon had independent decision making on their providers when they were needing new infrastructure and they “always decided that AWS suited them best.”
Shockingly (/s), they stopped making that claim right about the same time they started admitting that their biggest users are all under Private Pricing Agreements.
Maybe it was a bad idea for society to put 90% of the internet on one company’s infrastructure.
It’s kind of telling when Amazon services like Ring, Prime Video, and Alexa failed over pretty quickly, but everything else just didnt.
There’s no conspiracy here. It’s just highlighting that Amazon could prepare for AWS outages in a region, but since everything auth related was on us-east-1, everything else went down.
Shortcuts are costly.
Let’s take a decentralized network and centalize it! Nothing will surely go wrong.
Figma balls wheeeyyyy
Figma
of your imagination?
It seems that there is not a single original thought in that head of mine.
doesn’t matter bro, they’re your thoughts and that’s what makes them awesome 😊
Alright…
crushes your balls with ginger root which makes them burn
Why does Amazon use AWS?
I thought they had an in-house solution.
A lot of AWS are wrappers over said in house solutions
And there’s a push to move off of those to proper AWS
…and I did not even notice it, aside from the news here.
It really shows what a great life that we on the Fediverse are living, by making our tech independent to a degree from the largest tech providers.
The cloud was a scam for people with more money than sense.
Most people hosting things on the cloud, like Fediverse services, would be better off selfhosting and buying the hardware themselves.
Self hosting requires an immense amount of specialized knowledge and time…
I got started self-hosting last week when I got a hold of a smal Lenovo ThinkCentre. I installed Proxmox on it and if I want to self-host something I just spin up a container or virtual machine on the Proxmox system. It’s so much easier than installing self-hosted projects on bare metal. And if you want to change things around then just disable or delete the container/vm and let Proxmox stay clean. If one container breaks the rest of the system will still function.
I could easily host Lemmy from home with Proxmox and a reverse proxy with my current setup. I am not going to because I am not interested in moderating a platform and all the responsibility that comes with it, but it’s very possible to do.
Edit: the Proxmox community helper scripts makes installing most things a breeze! I use them every opportunity I get.
https://community-scripts.github.io/ProxmoxVE/
This is the first script to start with on a fresh install
https://community-scripts.github.io/ProxmoxVE/scripts?id=post-pve-install
Cool?
The point was that self-hosting is not hard if you do it the right way. You claim it’s very hard and requires specialized knowledge. I don’t think it’s much different than hosting in the cloud.
I didn’t say it was “hard”. I said it requires specialized knowledge. Which it does. And which you’ve not disproven in any way.
Once could say it requires special knowledge to host a service in the cloud too. The extra step I had to take was to open port 80 and 433 on my server and install nginx to forward the traffic to the right container on my local network since I only have one public IP. It took me minimal research to figure it out.
You realize hosting on a VPS is still selfhosting? And my comment was about selfhosting?
It really doesn’t, and certainly not more than running something on AWS.
In fact, hosting on cloud infrastructure adds another layer of complexity.
I stand by my original assertion.
You’re just wrong…
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figma ballz hahaha gotem
Edit: ohh noooo I just saw PhobosAnomaly’s post, I am so slow
Diversity is a strength when things go bad.
I am grateful that my past me (from few months ago) decided to study Slavic philology, instead of getting stupid tech job. I hate modern tech, including anything from big corporations.
I am also glad that I’ve switched to Linux (Debian ftw) to escape software enshittification.
Shit, none of my websites are slow. Fuck Amazon
