The new WVU budget slashes nearly 10 percent of majors and 7 percent of all faculty—but students and staff aren't going down without a fight.
  • Jim@programming.devEnglish
    17·
    1 year ago

    Ah yes, I’m sure the formal training received by doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers, and engineers is just an over-hyped “education” that can all be replaced by online MOOCs.

    There are real problems with education, especially with the costs, but “anything can be learned online” is the worst take I’ve heard in a long while.

    • hexi [they/them]@hexbear.net
      52·
      1 year ago

      Medical professions have hands-on training that can’t be replaced online.

      You can get a teaching degree or an engineering entirely online, do you think those are not legitimate?

      If someone can pass a calculus test after watching YouTube videos and doing practice tests, why should that count for anything less than someone who got the same score on a test from in-person courses?

      Remote learning became a lot more common during COVID, like it or not, it’s becoming normal. Unfortunately, test scores only count if you pay a lot for those courses. Free MOOCs teaching and testing the same content will not count, even if afterwards the people passing can demonstrate the same exact knowledge.

      • Jim@programming.devEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        Just because you can get part of your education remotely or through self-learning didn’t mean “anything can be learned online”.

        And if you were hiring a math tutor for your kid, would you prefer a self-proclaimed expert from watching YouTube videos or would you want someone who got a degree from a credentialed university? And even if you don’t care, why are you surprised that others would be skeptical of the YouTube expert?

        Remote learning can be fine for some things, and self learning through informal channels are also fine, but it’s not a full on replacement for formal education in all cases.

      • Sinonatrix [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        31·
        1 year ago

        For one, you can have a second screen and Google the answers. It’s a little bit harder in person.

        I’d really like to see a system of online learning where extension offices are built out into testing center networks. This still disenfranchises people sadly, but staves off some existential questions about what passing an exam even means now.

    • Sinonatrix [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      22·
      1 year ago

      Anything can be learned online, with enough drive and determination

      But if you’re that powerful: why bother learning from others? You could simply leave and create your own community called name’s Gulch.

      • Jim@programming.devEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        No sorry, that’s just fundamentally false. You can’t just learn titration techniques from watching a video. You can’t learn phlebotomy without an instructor watching you do it to a patient. Hell, you aren’t learning how to drive a car from playing a video game.

        And I’m not sure where you are pulling the “if you are that powerful” from. You really have an ax to grind don’t you.