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    9 months ago

    Come on Tim Apple. Do it. You know it’s the right thing to do

    Actually, with Google recently losing in court where Apple had previously won because Google was exempting some developers from its App Store rules; Apple might be actually inclined to actually enforce its rules in X’s case lest they suffer the same fate

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      Tim Apple is like the only positive thing that came out of Trump’s mouth/presidency, except for

      very legal, very cool

      perfect phone calls

      gushing about chocolate cake while bombing Iraq Syria

      big, red button for Diet Coke room service in White House

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      LOL Apple doesn’t give a single shit about “the right thing to do”, all they care about is money, and Apple is happy to not whack that hornet’s nest that’s actively stuffing their pockets, meanwhile they can continue to (rightfully) blame Twitter for what happens on Twitter.

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      While you may be right, it’s more likely to be the optics of being associated to this… person that will be the deciding factor.

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      Google was exempting some developers from its App Store rules

      Apple doesn’t give exemptions, it’s just a carte blanche ban

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    Apple did remove Parler from the App Store in the past due to lack of moderation. It did not end well for Parler. I don’t know how badly it has gotten over there on Twitter though. Is Twitter reaching the Parler level of toxicity yet?

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      Musk just hsoted a space with Ramaswamy, Andrew Tate, Matt Gaetz, and Alex Jones

      How do you think that went down? My prejudice tells me it was probably racist and xenophobic AF and probably included some dog whistles

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        Yikes. That’s a four horsemen of deplorables. What a horrible echo chamber of depravity.

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        Was that the one where Ramaswamy didn’t cut the mic to take a leak and some assistant had to beg him to turn it off himself because it couldn’t be muted by anyone else?

        If so, I have to think the noise of someone pissing was probably the most consistently honest part of the entire event.

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    Can we just fucking hold these people accountable already? Stop being afraid of taking them to task…especially when you’re one of the very few entities on the planet who have the resources to do so.

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      Generally the reason why it is like this is because you know others have resources to do the same to you and you don’t want to start a trend of doing that thing. Also, it’s their leverage against the people it could be used against. You’re asking an amoral group of individuals to act morally - that flies against everything they stand for.

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      Are you seriously arguing for Elon Musk to be sensible?
      The guy who believes Pizza gate is a real thing.
      The guy who claimed he bought Twitter to save the earth, because it was controlled by a death cult.
      The guy who believes Jews have a goal of exterminating white people.
      The guy who believes advertisers are trying to extort him with money, and told them to go F themselves.
      The guy who believes he shouldn’t be responsible when he manipulates Tesla stock.
      That guy?
      Maybe you mean Apple, but why would it be a maker of phones job to hold Musk responsible?
      Why not call on lawmakers, and work to improve democracy in USA.

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        I meant Apple, specifically their control over the App Store. We can hold more than one thing accountable, but this article was specifically referencing Apple and their App Store.

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    Just kill it please, People will be much better off on the Fediverse both mentally and to get away from bigots like Musk.

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        Did you mean “echo chamber”?

        The problem with restricting the nutbags to one platform with no one calling out their bullshit, Is that they start to believe their own lies.

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        can still be containment zone

        I thought that’s what “truth” social was

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        Yeah but rather it not become a breading ground for people like that with Elon’s plans on adding dating into the mix.

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      They probably won’t until they have their own alternative. It’s Apple, remember?

      Though I haven’t heard of them making one, so maybe they are waiting for something to jump in with. Threads if it starts sucking less, BlueSky if it becomes popular. But not Fediverse.

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    I’ve never even thought of Twitter’s reliance on App Stores. It’s hilarious how many hands Elon is biting. It’s impossible to keep track of.

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    I’m not holding my breath here. People seem far too willing to put up with stuff they wouldn’t otherwise because it’s Twitter. Far too many news orgs still point people to Twitter accounts.

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      Even my favorite email newsletters and blog sites still point to twitter.

      It’s kinda frustrating to click a link then immediately, a giant “log in to see more”.

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    Speaking as a former reddit mod still atoning for my sins, I can say with confidence that the answer to the question: “what would happen if a reddit mod had actual power that mattered?”

    Is simply this: Elon Musk would happen.

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        It was a strange autocorrect at the time of writing, but I am properly stoned now so perhaps it was prophetic.

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      Were you a super mod? Why would you want to be a mod? Is it because your lacked enough control over your life so moderating gave you a sense of power you didn’t maintain in your own life?

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        If we’re doing a bit, it’s because all forms of pornography have lost their appeal for me after years of slapping myself silly in my landlady’s basement (who is yes my mom technically), and eventually I could only achieve an erection, much less climax, by acting as a capricious and temperamental God among the mere mortals cursed to find themselves under my power. But eventually even that wasn’t enough and I’ve since moved on to direct marketing in the crypto space.

        If we’re being humans, it’s because a small community I was a part of, and for which I had some emotional skin in the game, needed help and I decided to give it a shot. I only ever did the one subreddit, and we never grew larger than… I don’t know 250k, and then I burned out and moved on.

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        Most people mod because they love a community and don’t want it to die. If it weren’t for mods the forums you are currently using would devolve into spam and hate speech immediately. Sure some mods are bad, some are terrible, but the majority are good.

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    A bit ironic that under any other circumstances people would be crying out about how Apple has too much power to censor and control apps among a large chunk of the population.

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      that’s a totally fair claim. This time it’s “okay” because the far right is being banned. But we shouldn’t let that distract us from the fact that two private mega corporations can censor any social media or journal they want.

      (they would only be banning the app and not the actual website, but so many tech illiterate people can’t tell the difference)

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    I could see either of these things happening:

    • Musk pouts and (laughably) threatens to build a better Apple.
    • Musk says he’ll buy Apple. Fails hilariously.
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      You do realize Elon and Steve Jobs share more traits than don’t? If he owned Apple it would actually work pretty well I’d think. Ignoring the fact it’s way too expensive for him.

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        Haha I have no love for Apple but musk would immediately tank it. His first decree on day one as ceo would be that all apps in the apple store would have to make fart noises when you open them

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          Honestly they would likely manage the same.

          Both are obsessed about micromanaging every aspect of the device.

          Both work their staff to death and expect the impossible.

          Both create a company that is a brand. That is, there are better products out there, but people will pay a premium just to say they own an Apple device/Tesla.

          It’s actually extremely logical/a great fit.

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          I mean, he died in 2011 and pretty much all of his worst behaviors are well documented and I think he’s well regarded in spite of those things, but importantly also because he seemed to learn and grow through his life. The worst things Jobs seem to be responsible for are barely a Tuesday for Elon these days, and the level of talent are also so disparate that putting them in the same sentence is a little absurd.

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          To think he would’ve lived if he didn’t act like a total nutcase and rely on alternative medicine…

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            Honestly crazy to me. Access to the best doctors and medicine in the world with no worries about money. Easy curable disease and yet you are so fucking high on yourself and your ways you die from it.

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              Isn’t pancreatic cancer one of the lowest survival rate cancers?

              Edit: thank you for teaching me Lemmy!

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                Yes, but Jobs had a very rare type of cancer, neuroendocrine. One that was, apparently, much easier to treat because it grows very slowly. He was diagnosed, could have gotten a surgery and dealt with what the doctors called a “shadow” on his pancreas. He decided, instead, that he would opt for more holistic treatments. 9 months later, he opts for modern treatments. At this point it was too late.

                Pancreatic cancer survival rate is so low because it’s usually caught when things are too late, as there are usually no symptoms when it’s treatable. Job’s not only had the easier version of pancreatic cancer to deal with, he also caught it at the literal perfect time. The only reason he died was because he decided that he knew better.

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                  I heard someone explain once that the ultra rich get both the best and the worst medical care.

                  The best because there’s literally no treatment they can’t afford.

                  The worst because on one hand it’s totally medicine à la carte, they get to pick whatever they want. And on the other hand they have to constantly ward off snake oil being sold to them.

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                He was diagnosed with insulinoma, which unlike other pancreatic cancers, is curable and can be treated with surgery. Doctors recommended an early operation but Mr Jobs could not be persuaded to stop his pursuit of alternative remedies.

                Mr Jobs went public about his cancer in 2004 after finally agreeing to surgery that year, by which time the cancer had spread.

                He realised the delay had been a mistake and told his biographer Walter Isaacson: “I should have gotten it earlier.”

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                He survived 8 years with it though, whilst refusing normal medical attention. Given that, had he dealt with it in the first or even second year he’d have probably had a good shot at surviving.

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          If you read their biographies instead of just idol worshipping Jobs I think you’d understand a bit better.

          Seems like people just want to think Jobs wasn’t a piece of shit when he definitely was.

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      What do you mean by “hateful content” there’s alot of “hateful content” on lemmy and various other social medias. “hateful content” is one of the most vague definitions I’ve ever seen in my life

      Way im interpreting and seeing it Is that its just a case of that as soon as you see someone you don’t agree with politically then they say something you don’t like that you will misinterpret there words as “hateful content” is this correct?

      I personally would make a case for there being alot of misinformation on twitter but same applies for most other social medias as well… you can find bountiful amounts of misinformation on lemmy mastodon reddit Facebook Instagram essentially if it has a userbase there’s a good chance some misinformation has been spread on there it’s the internet people like to lie on the internet all the time whenever to prove a point gain internet points or get better exposure

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        I’m not a fan of absolute relativism, to put it mildly. There are objective standards for hateful content. Alex Jones has been convicted of malicious defamation, for one example.

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        Lemmy is moderated, however. It goes against the community code of conduct to post hateful things, and in contrast to Twitter, Lemmy is not a platform that gives a high degree of visibility to individual submissions that outright violate such a code.

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    If i’m seeing this article on Bloomberg, someone peeped off the record. Xitter is in for a world of pain.

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    With the reinstatement of Alex Jones on X this week, Elon Musk is playing with fire. Precedent suggests X is teetering on the brink of a ban for violating Malus Inc.’s App Store rules, which would be the final nail in the coffin for the platform formerly known as Twitter. Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook will be watching closely and hoping desperately it doesn’t come to that.

    Jones reappeared on X over the weekend, brought back by Musk after polling his followers. His return comes five years after Jones’ mix of chaotic and toxic misinformation and hatred was deemed too much for Twitter and several other tech platforms. In the time since, Jones has mostly faded from the mainstream, only making the news when a judge ordered him to pay $1.5 billion to the families of children murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012. Jones had claimed the massacre was a staged plot using actors.

    Is this seriously the entire article? Wow…

    Why would Tim Cook be concerned about banning Twitter?

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      Because of the potential fallout that would happen if they did. Apple doesn’t want to ban one of their key apps, it would be like banning Facebook. The app ecosystem is a key part of any mobile OS’ appeal, it’s exactly why the Windows Phone failed. Apple doesn’t want to lose users to Android which will have twitter even if it’s banned through side loading. It’s just too popular of an app, even if it’s a complete shit hole.